Does Prostasol work?

PatrickH · Guest

Yes Prostosol worked exceptionally well for me.

Diagnosed 3 years ago at age 53 with advanced but contained PC the biopsy Gleason score was 4+5 = 9. PSA was 96. MRI and Bone Scan showed no spread beyond the prostate.
I have not done the conventional treatments as my extensive research indicated that they largely did not extend ones life expectancy greatly but often reduced the quality of life significantly. My approach has been to do everything possible to help my immune system and this has mostly worked, with a recent MRI and Bone Scan showing no advance from 3 years ago. The PSA initially went down over the first year or so but then crept up slowly until 1 month ago it was 146.

I month ago I started taking Prostosol, 3x3 caps per day, as part of a treatment regime used by Prof. Dr Klaus Maar in Dusseldorf Germany.
After 1 week my PSA was down to 80, after 2 weeks 17, after 3 weeks 6 and after 4 weeks 0.8 (that's right zero point eight!!!)

I will take a break now from the Prostosol and keep a watch on the PSA, if it starts going up then I will do a maintenance couse of 2x2 caps per day for 2 weeks and then 2 weeks of none - repeated as necessary.

The other treatment in the regime includes localised and whole-body heat treatment (diathermie), intravenous vit C, oxygen carriers and Mistl.
Dr Maar is a Professor of Urology and has a web site, it is unfortunatly in German, if you can't read it I strongly urge you to find someone who can translate it for you... http://www.krebs-nein-danke.de

BTW I am a New Zealander and live in NZ, I came across Dr Maar's clinic while on holiday in Germany and then stayed longer to do the treatment.
In a couple of months when my prostate has had a chance to settle down after the heat-treatments I will be doing a follow up MRI -- I will report the results on the forum, I am very hopeful that I will be able to report that the tumour has gone or significantly reduced.

Patrick.

techperson · New User Joined: 11 Sep 2006 Posts: 2

PC-SPES, crinum latifolium and Prostasol all bring down PSA scores, but are any of them a magic bullet for curing/preventing prostate cancer? Remember that PSA is the thermometer, and if you hold an ice cube on the thermometer, it doesn't mean the room gets cold. There are several alternative things to do to increase oxygen and alkalinity in the cells, and help the immune system mop up remaining prostate cancer cells. There's a free report at www.beat-prostate-cancer.net about this.

mycroft · Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 7:30 am Post subject: Does Prostasol Work?

I have posted on this subject before, and of course the True Believers counseled that I be ignored because I'm a skeptic.

One of the TBs wrote that he obtained his stuff from a "donsback" which I think is a misspelling of the name Kurt Donsbach.

Donsbach is a chiropractor and has a long record of shady and criminal activities.

Searching Quackwatch on his name produces 135 hits in 22 files. See:

http://tinyurl.com/ymlon5

What folks seem to be doing with Prostasol is chasing PSAs. And the PSA score is far from the only prostate cancer (PCa) marker. In fact, it is not specific for PCa at all, though properly used it can alert one to the need for further investigation. Further, aggressive PCa can and sometimes does exist and thrive without expressing much PSA.

I do not expect the TBs to pay attention to the above. I do wish to alert newbies to just another flim flam designed to enrich the purveyors of such stuff.

There is not a shred of reliable scientific evidence that it *cures cancer.* None. Zero.

Regards,

Steve J

"A man's most valuable trait is a judicious sense of what not to believe."
-- Euripides

johnw100 · Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:47 am Post subject: Re: Does Prostasol work?

SOURCE: apart from the formulation, I do not see that where the "prostosol" is obtained from is necessarily relevant.

PSA: have not previously found anyone who implied that a PSA reduction from 146 to .8 is not a good thing:
eg; that is exactly the result many men undertaking hormone treatment would like.

panargy · New User Joined: 01 Feb 2007 Posts: 6 Location: greece

Dear all
I'm very interested in Prostasol, but a short search on the net showed more than one products under the same name. Their differencies are detected in the ingredients or in the percentage of the ingredients they have in common. Could you please specify either your source of the above mentioned effective Prostasol or it's ingredients? Thanks in advance

bruce kopitz · Regular Joined: 07 Sep 2007 Posts: 10

Hello. My name is Bruce Kopitz. I am a 57 year old married man, father of three. I began experiencing rising PSA in the mid-1990's. Biopsies were unable to confirm cancer, so watchful waiting was recommended. However, it is generally believed that prostate cancer escapes the sheath when it's analogue, the PSA number, rises above 10. My number was approaching 10, so I became very uncomfortable.

I researched options. I didn't want the "Gold Standard" of that time, or prostatectomy, because of the many recorded instances of incontinence, impotence and cancer recurrence. Radiation, at the time, seemed like a Pyrhic exercise. I began using an herbal product called PC-Spes (Spes is Latin for hope). My PSA dropped to below 2 and stayed there. The product was expensive, but it worked, and UNLIKE HORMONE THERAPIES, MOST MEN NEVER - REPEAT NEVER - BECOME REFRACTORY. You may have read a posting here by Steve, I believe. He calls PC-Spes a fraud, apparently without ever taking it. Number One, it worked. Number two, it WAS contaminated, with trace amounts of naturally occurring Warfarin (an FDA controlled substance). Steve claims that the contaminants were the reason it worked. If so, I say take it BECAUSE of the contaminants! However, Warfarin is a blood thinner and has no PSA-reducing potential. Warfarin was NOT the reason PC Spes worked. It worked because the herbal complex (which, interestingly, was developed by court herbalists for the last Mandarin emperor in China) ENABLES YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM TO RECOGNIZE CANCER CELLS, AND TO KILL THEM (apostosis). The effect can be startling. Painful metastatic bone sites are rapidly and progressively debulked and absorbed by the body. CANCER EVERYWHERE EXCEPT INSIDE THE PROSTATE IS DESTROYED. Inside the prostate, according to the best research on these herbs, PC enters into remission or very slow apoptosis. YOU CAN GO ON TO LEAD A NORMAL LIFE, AND DIE FROM SOMETHING ELSE.

The bad news is that the FDA, upon discovery of the Warfarin contaminant, required the immediate withdrawal of PC-Spes from the marketplace (consigning hundreds, if not thousands, of men to their deaths). The GOOD NEWS IS THAT PROSTASOL FROM DR DONSBACK IS A SUPERIOR SUCCESSOR! I know for a variety of anecdotal reasons, aside from available statistics. I used it for 8 years, until and after my successful 22-hour brachytherapy (my PSA is now .2 five years out). My brother drove his 11 PSA down to 1 (then took wide-beam radiation). My father is on it now. An acquaintance named Bob had a PSA of 512 and was becoming refractory to chemotherapy. After one month on Prostasol, his PSA was 212. By the second month his blood count increased to almost normal, forestalling additional transfusions. Both steroid and Procrit therapy were discontinued because they were no longer needed. He is now exercising without pain, has high color and a resurgent attitude. One of the distributors for the product, Paul, had a recurrence of his PC after a radical prostatectomy 22 years ago. He began with PC-Spes, then graduated to Prostasol. His PSA now - 22 years later - is .1.

According to Paul, Doctor Donsback’s formulation works in about 95% of all cases where the immune system is materially intact. On the herbs, you can regain your health and reduce PC to an enfeebled (though ever-present) nemesis. Choose conventional PC chemotherapy first, however, and you will damage or severely compromise your immune system. Prostasol will NOT be an option if your immune system is unhealthy. Your doctor will tell you - on the newest chemo cocktails, mean-time to death is about 21 months.

Note - there are several different formulations of Prostasol on the market, including a European version with which I have no experience. I have used, and know dozens of men who have used Doctor Donsback's Prostasol. You may email me for purchase sources, or buy it on the web. If you try this therapy, call or email Doctor Donsback for dosing instructions. High PSA’s generally begin with 2 to 3 caps 3 times daily, low PSA’s with 1 times 3. Monitor your PSA monthly. Eventually, and gradually, you may tritate down to as few as one cap daily. DON’T JUMP ON AND OFF THE PRODUCT! Some of the few instances of long-term failure have resulted from whipsaw dosing and on-off usage. If you have NOT endured a prostatectomy, you should also purchase Prostaplex, another herbal amendment from Doctor Donsback. Prostaplex assists prostate function, fights benign prostatic hyperplasia and synergizes Prostasol.

On a related note, while you cannot cure cancer by watching your diet, you can tailor your consumption to make your body less hospitable for PC. Controlled studies have shown that 8 ounces of pomegranate juice daily, for example, can lengthen PSA rise times by 100% (add xylitol to counter bitterness, to fight microbes and for bone-and-tooth calcification). Refrain from red and preserved meats and barbecue (carcinogens). Eat whole foods and grains, especially cooked tomatoes. Drink soy milk daily. I use supplements faithfully, especially lycopene, inosital hexophosphate (IP-6), a good multi-vitamin (Twinlabs “2 a day”), and colloidal minerals such as Seasilver. There are reasons to avoid Omega-3 fatty acid supplements, as these may speed PSA rise times – supplement with DHA instead. Of course, if you’re not too sick, take moderate exercise daily.

My prayers are with you!

chrisz · Regular Joined: 09 Apr 2007 Posts: 48

It seems to me that is stuff indeed will cure Prostate cancer, then it would be well known to the medical community.

From what I read, it seems to lower PSA, but then again hormone therapy does also.

Does lowering your PSA mean your cancer is going away? It reads that way. It appears that many have had to have PC treatment after using this "Prostasol" stuff ? That doesn't sound like it curing cancer to me.

I think it's just a herbal form of hormone therapy that will drive your PSA down. But you still have cancer. Maybe it's just not advancing as fast.

Thats just what it appears to me from reading this thread.

Chris

bruce kopitz · Regular Joined: 07 Sep 2007 Posts: 10

Chris:

Go back and read the thread again.

I used Prostasol for years, before, during and after a 22-hour brachytherapy (needles cross-sectioned my prostate, and an iridium seed was moved in and out for two hours during the 22). The Prostasol eliminated the disease outside the prostate sheath, and confined it to a remissive state within my prostate (present, but not active). The benefit of Prostasol, as opposed to Lupron or triple-hormone blockade, is that YOU NEVER BECOME REFRACTORY. For example, if you do not like your treatment options at the current time, you can take Prostasol and go on leading a normal life, with your cancer effectively in remission. If you have a treatment, and it fails, you can continue with Prostasol and lead a normal life. If you decide to endure a prostatectomy (a last resort, hopefully), and the cancer returns, current western medicine will offer hormone therapy, to which you will become refractive (it no longer works), and then chemotherapy, which only slows the cancer, and then you die. Instead of chemotherapy (and, I would argue, instead of prostatectomy), try Prostasol. If you are among the majority of men for which it is effective, your PSA will drop to normal levels (meaning your immune system has destroyed the cancer sites outside the prostate sheath), and you can lead a normal, long life.

I hope this helps. Any other questions, feel free to ask. My prayers are with you.

Bruce Kopitz

bruce kopitz · Regular Joined: 07 Sep 2007 Posts: 10

Chris and others:

I noted in some earlier threads that "Men of science", who apparently have never tried Prostasol, claim there is no proof that it can cure cancer. That may be because no one is claiming it can cure cancer. It works like Lupron or triple-hormone blockade, except that YOU NEVER BECOME REFRACTORY! Normal hormone therapy will just stop working. Your cancer and your body will adjust, and enough testosterone will slip through to feed the disease. That doesn't happen with Doctor Donsback's Prostasol (NOTE - there are other products out now with the same name, for which I cannot speak). Prostasol can manage the disease, using the body's immune system to debulk tumors and confine the remissive PC to the prostate. Imagine how important this product is for someone at the end stages of PC! Imagine leading a normal life, instead of dying miserably on chemo. I used Prostasol for years. My father and brother and many acquaintances, ditto. I know one man who has spent 22 years on PC-Spes (the forerunner product) and Prostasol. He had a prostatectomy, and as so often happens, the cancer returned in a more virulent form. He is now more than 80 and in fine health. He would be dead long ago on chemo.

Please, those who have never been required to use the product, do not disparage it. True scientific method requires testing, and there are thousands of us out here who have done just that - with our lives, on Prostasol!

Bruce Kopitz

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