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harry1984 Regular
Joined: 25 Aug 2007 Posts: 19
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:20 pm Post subject: Re: Experiences with Cesium Chloride- good or bad |
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| CC appears to be fairly legitimate. But after all there are a bunch of different cancer treatments. People respond to medicine differently. It may not work for everyone. |
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Ben D Regular
Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 10
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Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 10:11 pm Post subject: Cesium Chloride and canine stage 5 lymphoma |
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Our Doberman with stage five lymphoma was declared in remission and no visible or tested signs of cancer three months after the start of chemo and concurrent cesium chloride/potassium treatment. We stopped the cesium (but continued on with potassium low dose) and continued the chemo protocol for another five weeks to the end ~ 24 weeks from diagnosis. She was declared cancer free. Three days after the last chemo treatment and exam, a lump appeared behind jaw. Phone call to doctor and he was sure it wasn't cancer (we started anti-biotic) but when he checked two weeks later and had biopsy done, it turned out it was cancer of unknown type. No signs of swollen/enlarged lymph nodes. The elapsed time from discovery of lump and lab results of biopsy was three weeks.
On the day we got the results, the lump had suddenly become severely enlarged (not just fluid) and become so painful that she couldn't open mouth wide to eat and only walked carefully with head down. Immediately after getting results, we put her on three doses a day of cesium/potassium - each of same amount that was given twice a day during the chemo - a 50% increase. Two days later, trotting around and could open mouth a enough to eat without demonstrated pain. Three days later, running and playing almost normally. A week later, totally normal behavior and the lump was almost back to pre-diagnosis size. No evidence of swollen lymph nodes. At ten days, better yet. Now measuring it with caliper for what that is worth, to try to quantify change.
We are going to augment the cesium/potassium with LDN (Low Dose Naltrexone) a prescription drug which has been shown to boost immune system and help treat cancer (and a variety of other diseases) and decrease tumor size. {link deleted by Admin} Virtually no side effects from the LDN.
We are extremely optimistic. We suspect that we may have created problems by our original stopping of the cesium/potassium during the chemo because we got optimistic. "Oh, she's in remission, we don't need it anymore". We should have followed normal protocol. |
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Dorian New User
Joined: 21 May 2008 Posts: 2
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 6:49 am Post subject: Cesuim |
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| I would like to thank whoever started this particular discussion about Cesium. My 11 year old sheltie got diagnosed with Lymphoma all over his abdomen and live and I was on the fence with regards to what alternative treatment to use with him. I narrowed it down to two. I was hoping to find a site with people's/animal's experiences with Cesium but had a hard time finding one, and then last night I stumbled upon this forum. I am going to order it today and start him on it as soon as I get it. Thank you! |
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Floridagirl2 Regular
Joined: 19 Jun 2008 Posts: 16
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:06 am Post subject: Re: Experiences with Cesium Chloride- good or bad |
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| that's very good news. I hope soon people and our doctors will be more open to alternative therapies given some of these things have been around for thousands of years. |
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Ben D Regular
Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 10
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:25 am Post subject: Re: Experiences with Cesium Chloride- good or bad |
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A status report on Lizzie - the Doberman with lymphoma. Until about four days ago, all was proceeding well except for a nasty diarrhea that started just over a week ago. Unrelated to that as far as we can see, I was informed that a doctor doing work with LDN advises dosages in excess of human dosing base on weight when treating dogs. Apparently a function of higher metabolism so we increased that (just after the diarrhea started).
Since adding the LDN to Lizzie's treatment, her non-lymph node lump when measured externally (for whatever validity that might have) has decreased in size by about 50%. All was very good until about three days ago when sudden total loss of appetite. Maybe partly the result of her being in heat. Onward to the feeding battle. |
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Ben D Regular
Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 10
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:52 pm Post subject: Re: Experiences with Cesium Chloride- good or bad |
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Update on Lizzie - Doberman with Stage 5 lymphoma.
Our previous post told of problems that developed. Turns out that she had a very bad abscess caused by ??? Maybe infection after biopsy or unassimilated dead cancer cells that rotted or tumor causing restricted blood flow. Treated for the infection - abscess drained, drains put in and treated with strong antibiotics. Back on the road to recovery.
08/30
All is going really well. "She beat the odds" per vet. yesterday. "I'm optimistic" he says but that optimism is tempered by the fact that he has never seen a dog survive that lymphoma. But now comes Lizzie. For the last three months she has been on LDN - Low Dose Naltrexone and the shrinkage of the cancerous "lump" that appeared right after the chemo ended has been constant since the start of the LDN use. External measurement of LxWxD (inches) of the lump has gone from a high of 18.8 when we started the LDN to 1.9 as of today. We were also using a Cesium/Potassium protocol but have stopped and are now using just the LDN and see no need for that more aggressive and harsher treatment with the way things are improving. Interesting fact is that the doctor who did much of the initial work with LDN recommends a substantially higher dose for canine than would be used for a human of the same weight. What is undeniable is that "They" expected her to have died by now and what they see now is what looks to be a healthy dog with only slightly swollen lymph nodes that you have to hunt for and a lump that is daily getting smaller. Life is good. |
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Ben D Regular
Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 10
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:37 pm Post subject: Lizzie Update - Cesium & LDN |
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Lizzie's Progress:
As of vet visit this week, all that remains of cancerous lump is a little scar tissue. He says "In Remission". I'll say it more definitively, She is cured. He did read up on LDN and although maybe not the soapbox believer that I've become, he doesn't think that I'm just a nut with a wacky cure. Says, "Keep her on the LDN". I'll only post again if things change.
Life is great! |
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