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systamatics
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:51 am    Post subject: Pancreatic cancer : mom Reply with quote

[b]the pancreas cancer has spread to the liver , tht means stage 4b rite ?? how much time has left for her ?? Crying or Very sad [/b]
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:09 am    Post subject: Re: Pancreatic cancer : mom Reply with quote

systamatics, I am truly sorry about your mother's cancer. I am not an expert in staging pancreatic cancer, however I do believe you are right. If it has metastasized to her liver is is probably a stage IV. What treatments are they offering her? Does her medical team seem to think that surgery is a possibility? People with a stage IV Pancreatic Cancer have a very poor prognosis (usually lease than three years with aggressive treatments). I am not sure what the prognosis is without any treatment. All of these are great questions for your mother's medical team to answer for you.

Having said what I said about your mother's prognosis, let me tell you about my experience with prognosis. I my doctor's had been right about my prognosis, I should have died at least 5 years ago. However, here I am still kicking. My cancer did recur in 2005... nevertheless, here I am. I like to know what my prognosis is just so that I can prioritize the things that I still would like to do. After I have prioritized my goals, I set aside the prognosis and live day-by-day trying to achieve those goals. It is easier said than done and many of my goals are simply unrealistic at this point. Nevertheless, I do what I still can do to achieve those goals that are realistic.

I am still thinking about and praying for you and your mother.
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systamatics
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:37 am    Post subject: Re: Pancreatic cancer : mom Reply with quote

thnx , u all are very kind in here
mom has jst passed her morphin pill , nd shes not feelin any kind of pain , or in-statitabality at all!! could this this a sign of anythin??
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Pancreatic cancer : mom Reply with quote

It is wonderful that your mother is not in any type of pain. I really do not think that is a sign of anything but the at this point the cancer is not affecting any pancreatic functions. I hope it remains that way for a long time.
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systamatics
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:42 am    Post subject: Re: Pancreatic cancer : mom Reply with quote

Well the last time i posted in here , was this tread , nov 25\2008
Its amazing and hartbreaking how her cancer spread quickly in the last period.
My Mom has passed away on the 4th of december 08 , leaving alot of confusion and bitterness in me .

the kind of pancreatic cancer she had is very rare , it started around her main nerves in the back , so shes been in pain for the last 3-4 years .

1 month before her death , when she was in pain 24\24 , the doctor came, seeing her in pain , ordered to give her more morphine , more xanax , more valium , and more 3 or 4 other drugs .

seeing her after 2 hours again , and still in pain screaming , he broke down and cried , went to his office locked the door ,and all the floor could hear him cry.the pain was unbarrable , anyone passing by that floor would be deeply hurt .

she was a brave woman , she took the pain most of the time , she was strong .

the last 2 weeks , the doctor managed to find a mix of medicines to ease her pain , still her pain came from time to time .

at that time the cancer spread to all the surrounding organs , she stopped eating or drinking , she stayed on the medicine bag and the nutrition bag all the time , we got her back home and the insurance company dealed with a homecare company , to get nurses to our home .

the last 10 days before her death , a mark in my life that i will and could never forget ... the 10th day before her death , i woke up , went to her room . she already stopped talkin, her left hand was paralyzed 1 month ago cuz of a tumor that grew in her head , but her face.. it got very week , her left eye ball went to the left , while the right eye stayed where it is , she got malformed Sad . everytime i looked at her , i couldnt look but to run out of room and cry , what hurts most , that when she wants somethin she cant talk , but make sounds , and no one could understand what she wants , once she wanted to talk to my brother who works in the uae , he called and only talked to her , and all what she could do jst make sounds , she was on drugs all the time , so shes wasnt awake and aware all the time , once she smiled to my little 2 years old nephew .

3rd of december 2008 . her legs are cold . and so are her hands . asleep all day long . her pressure is 8\4 , her lungs got filled with water few hours after , at around 8 we called for an ambulance and took her to the hospital . there the doctors examined her , and said , and i was standing there , " u know her case , ur only hurting her by bringing her to here , take her home and stop the nutrition bag " , hearing this i knew shes dying , stoping the nutrition bag means killing her , taking our decision to stop her life , i went to a bathroom there and broke down in crying .

bringing her home , the ambulance people brought her back on the bed , lying her on her back , for the 1st time in 10 months , she could sleep on her back , before she couldnt but to stay sitting.

my sister stopped the nutrition bag . at 1 am i went sleeping , while both my sisters and the sister of my mom stayed up with her reading from the holy book over her head .

december the 4th 2008 , 2:35 AM , hearing the sounds of crying in my sleep , my sister opens the door and wakes me up sayin " get up , moms dead , get up and stay with dad " , untill now im still in shock and i cant get or understand what happened , i went to her room , she was on her back , with her mouth open , no movement , no life , no breathin , no nothin .

what hurts most that i ddnt say goodbye , i ddnt kiss her before her death , or even after her death , cause of some emotional problems that i have . wish i stayed with her a longer time , wish i spent more time with her , now i know that i more than miss her ..

i have this record where shes speaking with my brother on the phone and with his little daughter , its in arabic , i mixed it with a song called trust for the cure . hope ull like it.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/mjaiet

Thank you.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:32 am    Post subject: Re: Pancreatic cancer : mom Reply with quote

systamatics, I want to offer my deepest sympathy in this time of great sorrow. Do not feel that you did not say 'goodbye' or kiss your mom. Your love and dedication were evident to her and to all throughout her illness. From this low point of grief, build your memories of your mom starting with the little smile to you nephew, and then back to the happiest times of her life, even back to when she was a child. Know that death always comes, and there are few happy endings, but many happy memories. Good luck to you as you go forward, and come back here and write when you can.
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Sherry
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:54 am    Post subject: Re: Pancreatic cancer : mom Reply with quote

I am so sorry for you loss. Just know she's in a better place and in no more pain. I just can't begin to imagine that much pain. You did nothing wrong, she knows you were there for her. Hang in there and my prayers go out to you and your family.
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