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victorladra
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:17 am    Post subject: You can Beat the Odds Reply with quote

Good day, to all the person that might read this. I am victor, I am a Filipino Nurse, I am handling cancer patients, and I want to establish a society of cancer patients not just for one nation but for the whole world. I am starting it right, feel free to email. LINK DELETED PER FORUM POSTING POLICIES. and if someone is willing to help to establish i will be very much delighted. I make the title be a believer, because I notice to my patients that they lose hope, they lose contact with their families and with their lives, and I don't want to see them like that so I always encouraging them that believe in there selves that they can surpass all this trials, just have faith, just believe. If you believe that you can beat this odds happening to you. you can achieve it. I know someone will comment on this, that this is not just easy as it sound, but i will tell, nothing is hard if you're with God. God Bless. I love you guys. Just Believe.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:54 am    Post subject: I have a problem.. Reply with quote

I'll comment on it, all right.

"If you believe that you can beat this odds happening to you. you can achieve it."

Balderdash.


I have a problem with the idea that if you just believe, you'll beat cancer. Or if you just have the right kind of religious faith, you'll beat it.

The reason I have a problem with it is the flipside: if you lose the battle, then obviously you didn't pray enough, or to the right God, or have enough faith, right? Because that's all you need.

Someone I know was in tears one day. Her friend had died after suffering from a terrible disease for years, and suffering intensely in the last days. It got so bad that the person I know prayed for God to take her now, and stop the suffering. Overnight, the patient died. The person I know was beside herself with guilt and grief, thinking that her prayer had actually caused the death--that she had, in effect, committed euthanasia by proxy.

The idea that "faith is ALL you need" is an insult to many people who have watched friends and loved ones suffer and die, despite all the prayers and in some cases, immense faith. It's an insult to those who are terminally ill now, in spite of the best efforts of all around them. Bad things happen to good people all the time. Innocents are suffering and dying in Haiti by the score as I write this. It's not because they deserve it, or because they lack faith. Call it fate, random events, the mysterious ways of God, the way the universe works, whatever. But cancer mortality is not caused by our lack of religion, faith, or positive attitude.

Clearly, religious faith helps people endure all kinds of trials, but if that was all that was needed, we wouldn't need doctors, nurses, or medical research. I'm not against taking a positive attitude. Certainly the belief that one can beat cancer is necessary--or none of us would seek out treatment in the first place. But there is a lot more necessary than belief.

Walsh has a good way of looking at this in his book. He suggests that it may be better to ask "thy will be done" and take the outlook that things are working out as part of a universal plan; rather than expecting very specific things from the almighty.

In short, the idea of a "Be A Believer" organization, that tells people all they need is to believe, sounds like a cruel hoax.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:40 pm    Post subject: Uh huh Reply with quote

I BELIEVE... that I'll continue to work with my healthcare team to beat my PCa.
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