Natural Help for Cancer

netbucks1 · Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:17 pm Post subject: Re: Natural Help for Cancer

[quote="BRD"]Hello all!

New here, but I did a Google search and this forum came up. The main reason I'm here is because I've been really into getting healthy because of just a general feeling of lousiness. I found out a lot. So, I figured I'd try and help, unless you all have already heard of this.

A lot of diseases are preventable by simply increasing your dosage of vitamins in foods we eat. Skurvy is prevented with Vitamin C, Rickets is prevented with an increased intake of Vitamin D. Anyways, these are just a few examples.

With cancer, what I found out, is that an increase in vitamin B 17 is most likely what is needed. Native Americans who eat natural foods high in B 17 do not get cancer.

You can get B 17 from things like Apricot kernels, fruit seeds such as the apple, peach, cherry, orange, nectarine and apricot. Other foods that contain vitamin B-17 are: bitter almonds, millet, wheat grass, lima beans and more. I also read that the FDA has tried to ban B 17 because it contains traces of cyanide. Well, so does B 12, but we can get that anywhere we want.

So, this is all natural, but you're hard pressed to find vitamin B 17. Nothing on any of my vitamin bottles that I have here (Centrum).

Just joined this site and posted all this for you guys. I know if I had cancer I'd try ANYthing! So, hopefully this will just give you something else to try if everything else has failed. I mean...what have you got to lose by trying it, you know?[/quote]

Thanks heaps for your contribution. I have recently found all of this information also through an audio recording by Phillip Day entitiled "cancer - the winnable war"

A copy of this audio can be found for free at http://www.net-bucks.net/health__fitness.htm
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mikes · Senior User Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 143

netbucks1,

Take a look around this web page. You will notice that some people pay money for Google Ads. Why do you expect your ads to be free?

This is a cancer forum, not a market bazaar!

netbucks1 · Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:43 pm Post subject: Re: Natural Help for Cancer

[quote="mikes"]netbucks1,

Take a look around this web page. You will notice that some people pay money for Google Ads. Why do you expect your ads to be free?

This is a cancer forum, not a market bazaar![/quote]

Im not trying to sell or market anything. I am just trying to help people find the information that they deserve. The FDA is trying to suppress this information that everyone is intitiled to! I don't care if people believe me or are skepticle. I just ask that people actually check this stuff out and make their own mind up about it!

People are dying unnessissarily!
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mikes · Senior User Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 143

netbucks1 said:

"Im not trying to sell or market anything. I am just trying to help people find the information that they deserve. The FDA is trying to suppress this information that everyone is intitiled to! I don't care if people believe me or are skepticle. I just ask that people actually check this stuff out and make their own mind up about it! "

Ok, remove the links to the commercial sites, and then I'll believe you!

Anyway, how could any reasonable person suspect that names like "moneymadeeasy" and "net-bucks" have anything to do with marketing something? This smacks of gross hypocrisy!

brainman · Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:10 pm Post subject: Re: Natural Help for Cancer

Since much of this thread does involve discussion about alternative treatments and since the original author BRD has not posted a reply since 2005, I am going to move this thread to the Complementary and Alternative Medicine forum.

Thank you.
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Roxanne Sparks · Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:28 pm Post subject: mangosteen

Thanks for the tip Brainman...

Hi All,
My Mom has a grade IV GBM that is inoperable. Someone suggested that she try the Xango/Mangosteen 21 day cancer trial. Has anyone ever heard of this product? Better yet, known anyone who has used it and had success? Thanks for any info.
Roxanne

Loving husband · Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:47 pm Post subject: Re: Natural Help for Cancer

Sorry to disabuse the proponents of the use of "Vitamin B17" ...
It's not actually recognised as a vitamin

Although there is considerable anecdotal 'evidence' of reductions and remissions of tumours these people are extraordinarily lucky! Why? Because the only detectable active ingredient is ... cyanide!
Normally cyanide kills the person ingesting it by shutting off the cells' mechanisms for absorbing and processing oxygen. As in conventional chemotherapy the concept is that the malignant cells are weaker than ordinary cells, thus causing them to succumb faster. If only it were that simple.
1) Since there is no way of knowing the percentage of cyanide in the B17 there can be no way of calculating a safe dose which is also effective.
2) The effect of other substances in the patient's diet can affect absorption of the cyanide both positively and negatively, making safe dosage even more difficult. (eg. flax seed or flaxseed oil increase absorption).
3) Cancer cells have been shown to be capable of metabolising anaerobicly - ie. in the absence of oxygen.

For a short while I was 'treating' my wife with B17 and it was showing some good results. Unfortunately it meant her having to have more and more oxygen until she was slipping fast even on 100% O2. Since I've discontinued the B17 her reliance on it has dropped by two thirds and she can breathe easily on atmospheric oxygen for almost half of the time.

Personally I now believe that the possible dangers outweigh the (usually) short-term benefits. Frankly, it ain't worth it! Just my two ...
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Are you for real? If this 'therapy' has ANY effect on tumours - either malignant or benign - I'll eat my own weight in onions. And I can't stand the damn things!
Without following the link I believe this is just a scam to get a tracking cookie onto your computer so you can be inundated with spam emails offering cancer 'cures' for "just a few dollars". I can only suggest that you avoid it like The Plague Rolling Eyes

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marlborosounds · New User Joined: 11 May 2007 Posts: 5

<quote="infinitepossibilities">First time in the world - FREE online energy healing real-time.
Created by bowel cancer survivor and provided to everybody for free.
Please click on the energies called CELLS HEAL when you get to the website. You may wait few seconds until the beautiful geometric colourful pictures will load. It is recommended to use it for at least 20 minutes a day, for cancer patients at least 1 hour a day.

www.energizingtechnologies.com
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<quote>Are you for real? If this 'therapy' has ANY effect on tumours - either malignant or benign - I'll eat my own weight in onions. And I can't stand the damn things!
Without following the link I believe this is just a scam to get a tracking cookie onto your computer so you can be inundated with spam emails offering cancer 'cures' for "just a few dollars". I can only suggest that you avoid it like The Plague Rolling Eyes
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Hello all, No this isnt too hard to believe if you try!! Yes, It works and if one will just try it, it will not cost you one thing. I know because im the one that Infinitepossibilities spoke about. We dont want to send you spam or track your computer. We only ask that people will try it. If you do and it doesnt work for you, you have lost nothing. If it does work, well you have gained everything. So people dont let another say that we only wish to track you and trace you to keep you from getting something good from this.

Also this site will run with any browser. If you use windows media player you can watch the images on your computer. If dont have it then not to worry it will still work. I cant explain to you what you will see, but subtle energies are like steam building in a room. If you turn on your hot water in the bath it will get all foggy, the same applies for subtle energy, If you play this, the healing energies will build in your house where you are at. If you turn it off it will slowly dissipate.

Please try and please enjoy.
And remember to those who believe, All things are possible.

marlborosounds · New User Joined: 11 May 2007 Posts: 5

<quote>
Without following the link I believe this is just a scam to get a tracking cookie onto your computer so you can be inundated with spam emails offering cancer 'cures' for "just a few dollars". [b]I can only suggest that you avoid it like The Plague Rolling Eyes[/b]
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And also to this people. And one can trace this back if one takes the time. Cancer has become a billion dollar a year business. If one goes back 100 years we didnt have people suffering with cancer. But I will say one thing, this country has been programed " nothing is for free" this is crap. I guess if one is a christian and God himself said we are healed, then I guess we should all wait for St. Peter to come around with the plate so we can pay to get our free healing from our Creator. People Please forgive me, but enough is enough. I will not say anything else to the point, its up to you

Loving husband · Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 6:10 am Post subject: Re: Natural Help for Cancer

"If one goes back 100 years we didnt have people suffering with cancer."

What a load of ... (expletive deleted) Shocked

Cancer is mentioned in the Bible which, if memory serves, was written a bit more than a century ago! Rolling Eyes

As for this 'therapy's' alleged efficacy; even placebos have a small success rate - which is all this would have. "Healing Energies" from a computer generated picture? I doubt there many people stupid enough to believe such twaddle Exclamation

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marlborosounds · New User Joined: 11 May 2007 Posts: 5

Ok well so its a placebo huh. hmmm Ok well Im alive, Or maybe im dead but just talking from the grave. Yes on the average today go thru the world and tell me how many people are dying of cancer today, than compared to 100 years ago.

And then I guess the world can just line up for surgery and have parts removed. Because as you say nothing works other than the knife or some pill or radiation treatment.

As far as people in the olden time being sick, yes that is a given, All I said is that the amounts today are far greater than 100 years ago or 1000 or 2000 years ago.

And this is free so what is there to loose. And sir , I will be honest, when one is dying and is sent home to spend his last few days or weeks or months waiting on death he or she will look at any ways to extend there life. regardless what you may think or wish. Or else these forums wouldnt be online. So please have a wonderful Day and GOD Bless.

marlborosounds · New User Joined: 11 May 2007 Posts: 5

And once again , As I said this is free, no one is asking for anything from you. Other than try. Dont stop any treatment. Just try. Dont worry we dont want in your computer. We only want the world to be healthy.

So let each person be his own judge. Let him say yes it helped or no it didnt.
Very simple .

Just try it, You might Like it.

Loving husband · Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 8:33 am Post subject: Re: Natural Help for Cancer

"Because as you say nothing works other than the knife or some pill or radiation treatment."

Try and read what I wrote, not what you THINK I wrote! I'm an advocate of 'alternative' and 'holistic' therapies for all the ills that plague mankind - as long as they're not some LSD induced hippy dream ... Rolling Eyes

"As far as people in the olden time being sick, yes that is a given, All I said is that the amounts today are far greater than 100 years ago or 1000 or 2000 years ago."

Where do you get your figures from? I doubt you're comparing like with like. Go back 1,000 or 2,000 years and the human population of this benighted planet was far less than today. Do you have the incidence per 1,000 head of population for ANY disease? No? I thought not!

If, as you say, this is offered for purely altruistic reasons I applaud you (or them - whatever) but I doubt that anyone can be helped by this who wouldn't be better served by some other treatment.
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marlborosounds · New User Joined: 11 May 2007 Posts: 5

What other treatment would have saved me. I do not kno you and you do not kno me and I will not get into a lil boy wizzing contest on who is wright and who is wrong. All I kno is that Im alive today because of this. I had terminal bowel cancer and was sent home to die. As well as many are. but that was over a year ago now. They tried everything they could think of, I have parts that arnt mine, experimental crap, They tried everything they could think of to just send me home full of pills and morphine puck in my gut to take away the pain. But Im alive now and doing well, The doctors couldnt believe it.

All im doing is asking that others try, who knows maybe they might have a mind of there own and wish to give it a shot. But as the old saying goes, monkey see's monkey does, and same goes for people who hear things. Im not claiming anything other than it helped me and that im alive So let the others have a clear mind of thought and try it. So please allow people to make up there minds on there own. dont add to the pain that they already suffer from. I kno God Gives us all idea's thru life. Things to help man.

Have a great day, And I wont answer back to any other reply on this subject. the site is up. the people can try it if they choose. And I pray that no others have to suffer the way I did and many others are and have.

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