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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:05 pm    Post subject: Cancer/Leukemia Natural Treatment Protocols Reply with quote

If you need complete, perfect Cancer/Leukemia Natural Treatment Protocols, e-mail me.
There are TWO Cancer/Leukemia Natural Treatment Protocols
1. Cytotoxic Cancer and Leukemia Treatment Protocol (Use 8 weeks)
2. Immunotherapy Cancer/Leukemia Treatment Protocol (Use 6 weeks)
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:11 am    Post subject: Re: Cancer/Leukemia Natural Treatment Protocols Reply with quote

king- I have deleted your e-mail due to our policies. I will return it in a while- after i have spoken to Jim- admin. Please don't be offended. Thanks for understanding.
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king
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:26 am    Post subject: Re: Cancer/Leukemia Natural Treatment Protocols Reply with quote

You're about to discover a revolutionary cytotoxic/immunotherapy protocols that’s already cured many different terminal cancer patients completely. For many cancer/leukemia patients in terminal stage, these protocols can lead to a complete cure. It could stop cancer cell growth in 5~7 days
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brainman
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:50 am    Post subject: Re: Cancer/Leukemia Natural Treatment Protocols Reply with quote

king, cytotoxic=chemotherapy in the sense that both work by killed cells; they are both toxic to cells. As for immunotherapy, there are several cancers treated that way. As for a "cure" by one single protocol, highly doubtful since different cancers have different causes.

In, you can re-post his email address but I do not know king and he has been a member for a very short time. This might just be a phishing expedition (trying to get your email address) so, members, be cautious about sending him your primary email. Maybe sign up for a Gmail or yahoo account just to email him for information.

King, thank you for not posting a link to your information since that would really be a violation of our policies.
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king
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:07 am    Post subject: Re: Cancer/Leukemia Natural Treatment Protocols Reply with quote

Thanks Jim. But, what are you talking about. You have no sense whatsoever. Cytotoxic treatment protocol is to kill cancer and leukemia cells by inducing apoptosis with natural medicine. Unlike necrosis, apoptosis is a non-inflammatory death pathway. Fundamental to all cytotoxic treatment protocols is the depletion of glutathione in cancer cells. Glutathione depletion, the primary anti-oxidant in cells, sensitizes cancer cells to ROS(reactive oxygen species) induced cell death. Also, activate death pathway with natural medicines. Natural medicines synergize with one another in the activation of different death pathways, initiate apoptosis. Also inhibit activation of “Big Four” pathways such as Cox-2, AKT, Bcl-2, NF-kB. Block PI-3K/AKT signaling. Many different terminal cancer patients who do not respond to traditional chemotherapy were cured with cytotoxic natural treatment protocols. Hope you understand what I am talking about.
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brainman
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: Cancer/Leukemia Natural Treatment Protocols Reply with quote

My background is in Chemistry/biochemistry and I have worked with cancer patients for 15 years so I have no problem understanding what you are saying, I just disagree. The only difference between a general toxic compound and a cytotoxic one is that a cytotoxic agent tends to focus on one cell type, for example hemotoxic agents that attack blood cells or nephrotoxic which attack kidney cells. Both general toxic compounds and cytotoxic compounds kill cell i.e. cause necrosis.
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king
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:19 am    Post subject: Re: Cancer/Leukemia Natural Treatment Protocols Reply with quote

You have no sense. For example, I talked about "death pathways". TNF, FAS, two of death pathways, are toxic to cancer cell and normal cell. When activate these pathways with natural medicine, we need to be cautious. Activate the TNF, FAS pathway is both beneficial and problematic.TRAIL is another death pathway. It's totally non toxic to normal cells. TRAIL can kill any cancer/leukemia cell regardless of degree of malignancy. It has ability to kill highly chemotherapy resistant cancer/leukemia cells such as breast, liver, brain, cervical, lung, ovarian, pancreatic, melanoma, virtually any other type of cancer tumor/ leukemia cells. It’s possible to stimulate TRAIL synthesis successfully with natural medicines/natural anti-cancer/leukemia protocol. I don’t expect you understand what I’m talking about.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Cancer/Leukemia Natural Treatment Protocols Reply with quote

[quote="king"]You have no sense. .[/quote]

I feel this is unsuitable language - it is unwarranted and rude. Just because someone does not agree with you does not mean that insults are in order. What exactly are your qualifications that allow you to be so dogmatic?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Cancer/Leukemia Natural Treatment Protocols Reply with quote

Vee. What’s this website’s purpose? Patients with advanced cancer need true, non toxic, effective natural anti cancer/leukemia protocol to fight for their own lives.

Check out [url]http://www.cancerforums.net/about7537.html[/url]
[quote= brainman] sodapop, I have never heard about Milk Thistel. However, the rest are commonly available. With the exeption of baby aspirin, the remaining ones should be safe... I take many of these. However, my advice is to consult with your on medical team to make sure that these supplements do not have negative side effects when used with the other therapies you are using. If you are wondering, of this list, I use Lycopene, Omega 3, Zinc (part of a multivitamin), Ester C, Vitamin E, Green Tea, Vitamin D, Folic acid, Selenium (part of a Multivitamin), and Q10. Plus I use B12 and B6. I cannot say that they do any good, but they do not seem to do any harm. Hopefully, some of their claims are correct . Certainly, maintaining a good level of vitamins is good for someone dealing with cancer. [/quote]

I thought he is not right person to give any advice to desperate cancer patients. For example, green tea is potent Proteasome inhibitor. We can not use Proteasome inhibitor in anti cancer immunotherapy. But we can use aspirin as Cox-2 inhibitor. He has no sense. just deleted my email address.
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Vee Smith
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Cancer/Leukemia Natural Treatment Protocols Reply with quote

Nothing you have said convinces me that you are the right person to tell me or any other cancer sufferer what is good for them or not good for them. If you have good qualifications, please tell us all what they are so that your advice can be regarded with greater respect.

To speak of one of the very committed people who run this site in the way that you have is not the behaviour we all expect of one another.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Cancer/Leukemia Natural Treatment Protocols Reply with quote

King-

This sites purpose is to give advice, own experiences and comfort people. It is a site to "help" others.

So fine- give your advie- don't throw it down peoples throats or make it a fighting issue. Write and leave it to others to read.

People have to do what they wish to do for themselves, memebers have a right to express their worries, concerns and own experiances with medictions, and Alternative Medications. That is what this is all about.

Someone, you, posts a option. We read, we ask questions, we look it up ourselves, we read other peoples experiances with this. The we decide.

I'm my OWN thought On this option. I would listen to someone who has been on this site/Forum from the begining, had delt with Cancer himself on many different levels. And with Others. (JIM) BUT I DO- like to hear of new ways of fighting this awful disease.
I Just not all the conflict around it.

As I think Vee has said before, we have many "snake oil" sellers here. And we like to know what is behind all their info. To be sure. Not to offend.
But it also Important for other people to state they own ideas, thoughts and concerns.


I'm writing this as I feel you are determand to "sell" your story/advice/informaton. No matter who's toes you tread on. Your maner I don't like. I find it is offensive, and just after reading all this. I wouldn't "buy" what your selling because of your maners.

I'm not making this a "wizzing contest"- just letting you know how your actions made me feel.


I will not be posting anymore replys here.
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~Car Accident- Broken Back, Ribs, Spleen
Sternum~
~Continous Cervical Cancer~

My Story-
http://cancerforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=6731


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