Effect Prostosol has on Testosterone Levels?

Charlie Redd · Regular Joined: 29 Nov 2007 Posts: 19 Location: Cocoa, FL

Hello Users of Prostosol,

I am new to this forum but not to PCa. I was diagnosed with PCa in Feb 2000. I chose Dr. Michael Dattoli and received EBRT followed by Palladium Seed Implant. PSA went from 8.9 in Feb 2000 to 0.06 in July of 2001. It started slow rise to 0.23 in Jan 2001until it got up to 11.16 in Feb 2004. I then started on ADT, Lupron and Casodex. PSA fell to 0.59 and continued to fall to 0.00 in Jan 2005. I was on the ADT for nine months. By Dec. of 2005 my PSA had risen to 9.2. I went back on the ADT for nine months until Sept 2006. My PSA was 0.08. By July 17th of this year PSA came back up to 8.49 and has been increasing at a rapid rate. July 31st 11.04...Aug. 21st 11.09...Sept. 4th 13.03...Sept. 14th 14.0...Oct 9th 16.51...Oct 24th 19.280...Oct 30th 21.4...Nov. 8th 23.910...Nov. 17th I started Prostosol daily 2x2...would you believe on Nov. 20th my PSA had fallen to 12.39 Very Happy

? I had it checked again on Nov, 27th but I do not have the results yet. I can't believe this drop until I see the results of this last blood draw.

Now, those of you who have been using Prostosol, please tell me what effect, if any, it has on your testosterone level. The two times I have been on the ADT, Lupron and Casodex, it of course knocked my testosterone way down below the normal range. It did what the doctor wanted, because it is the belief that PCa feeds on testosterone. This therapy made me feel very weak and listless, hot flashes and swollen breasts. I have noticed that the nipples on my breast are sticking out more than my wife's. This is in less than two weeks of taking Prostosol. Thank goodness my breast haven't gotten as big as my wife's.

Thank you guys for any advice or info you can give me. This dadgum PCa is so complex and I believe that there is so much that the medical profession does not know for sure. I was convinced, after reading "The China Study" that one's life style is one of the most imprtant things in fighting this darn thing. I became a vegan in June 2006 and am now a healthy 71 years, except for my PCa. I follow Dr. John McDougall and am referred to as a McDougaller by my vegetarian-vegan group, Healthy Planet of Brevard, that my wife and I joined. When this finally gets me...at least I want die constipated. Smile

Dr. Mcdougall diagnosed his father-in-law with PCa when he was about 70 years old and advised him to do nothing but live the vegan life style...the father-in-law is now 95 yrs and going strong. I believe in Dr. McDougall, but not totally when it comes to this dadgum PCa.

Best Wishes and Prayers,

Charlie

johnw100

I'd suggest reading Dr Myers book "Beating Prostate Cancer: hormonal Therapy & Diet" if you havn't done so.
DR Myers suggests measuring Testosterone and Dihydrotestosterone to check that the treatment is doing what it's supposed to do. Not everyone on hormone treatment measures their hormone levels.
The various kinds of hormones can produce differeing results and side issues.

I had read of the earlier version of Prostasol being used in conjunction with intermittent hormone treatment, but havn't seen any recent information on that aspect.

Prostasol usually has a similar effect to hormone treatment, and while there can also be similar side effects they're usually not as severe as they can sometimes be with conventional hormone medication.

Many prostasol users indicate that their PSA has reduced to undetectable: they often then cut back to a very low monthly dosage.

Some use the Dr Donbach formula which can be less expensive than some , but it sounds as if whichever version you've used seems to be working.

Charlie Redd · Regular Joined: 29 Nov 2007 Posts: 19 Location: Cocoa, FL

Thanks for your suggestions and reply, Johnw100. I haven't read Dr. Myers' book but I am familiar with "Snuffy" Myers...I even traveled to Sarasota, Florida, a distance of about 180 miles from my home in Cocoa, to hear him speak. In fact, Dr. Myers was diagnosed with PCa, I believe, in 1999. I was diagnosed in 2000. It so happens, that Dr. Myers was treated with EBRT and Brachytherapy from Dr. Michael Dattoli, the same doctor that treated me and has continued to be my doctor. The diets that they recommend are pretty much the same. I follow the vegan lifestyle of Dr. John McDougall which is probably more restrictive. I have visited Dr. Myers web site and have even ordered or downloaded some of his information about PCa. John, I will check out the book you suggested. I believe his thoughts and beliefs will be about the same as Dr. Dattoli's, since that is his doctor.

I am convinced that the proper diet, a plant based diet with no meat, cheese or dairy products, is the best thing we can do in fighting PCa. I am not convinced that diet is the only thing we should do. However,I do not want to go back on Lupron and casodex, if I can help it.

My Dr does not know yet, that I am using Prostosol. Dr. Dattoli does send me prescriptions to have my testosterone and hormone levels checked. Having the testosterone levels fall is one of the main reasons that I don't like going on the ADT. I haven't had my testosterone checked since starting Prostosol. It has only been less than two weeks since starting Prostosol. After ten days, my PSA fell from 23.91 to 3.98. Very Happy

I'm feeling fine but have noticed nipples and breast seemed to have gotten a little bigger. Actually, the nipples are poking out a good bit. Laughing

I am using the Prostosol of Dr. Donbach as you mentioned. Have you used it or know anyone who has? Thanks again, John.

Best Wishes and Prayers,

Charlie

johnw100

I have not used prostasol personally: have read information and charts of various dosage, PSA and testosterone numbers which short and long term users have posted at the yahoo prostate natural treatments board for example.

The anecdotal view is that prostasol use reduces testosterone levels, relative to dose.

chris nz · New User Joined: 25 Jun 2006 Posts: 8

hi P users.
I have used Prostasol for 3 years, [Donsbach mostly] I check my PSA monthly and adjust the number of caps I take accordingly, I am currently taking 4 / week because the PSA was creeping up on 3, my testosterone 2 weeks ago was 3.1nmol/L range 8-38. I have the usual side effects - breast enlargement and nipple tenderness. best regards chris
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