Dioxins

romankorvinus · New User Joined: 22 Oct 2009 Posts: 6

I did a report in Biology class a few years back and I was curious what the Cancer field has done or is doing about Dioxins? It has been reported in the past by not only the EPA but the World Health Organizations as well that over 90% of all illnesses is a result of Dioxins. It was also stated that roughly 80 lbs. a year are released into the environment. As well a person is only allowed 70 pictogram of dioxin into the body per month without harm. It may not seem like much but Dioxin 2378 TCDD is considered the the most toxic chemical on the planet so much that all other chemicals are tested according to it's toxicity.

And yes we eat this dioxin on a daily basis, basically put the foundation of this chemical is Chlorine.

Bad Ah receptors
cancers
immune disorders
bipolar
Can cause suicide as was used in Cold War.
and a who other mess of problem Soft Tissue sarcoma for instance.

Before you spend another cent on Cancer research I think you should eliminate the reason for it.

ChemoMan · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:42 pm Post subject: Re: Dioxins

Hi romankorvinus

While not down playing the dangers of dioxins, the fact that most cancer rates have remained stable and the amount of dioxins since the 1900 has increased greatly, I think you can rule out dioxins as a primary cause of cancer.

Most researchers are now of the opinion that the causes of cancer are multifactorial, with genetic, viral, and chemical factors all playing a part. You can be assured that this is being studied in minute detail.

You need to understand that for most people on this forum the causes of cancer are of casual interest only, as most of us are either people who have cancer or those who care for people who have cancer. Most here are interested in effective treatments of existing cancers.

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romankorvinus · New User Joined: 22 Oct 2009 Posts: 6

Since 1900? The first mass production of Dioxin was in Vietnam when 11-19 million gallons were dumped on the country and it's time of war. I believe it is called 2-4 Dioxin. Also known as Agent Orange, all of which who have it have cancer, and indeed this can be passed down to the children of those patients. Of course they seem to be relatively stable to a chart or bar graph but what you are probably ignoring is the growth in world population.

The only factor that seems to be left out is that 1 drop of 2378 TCDD can polute 4 million gallons of water. Not to mention almost everyone on the planet has a relative amount of dioxin in thier system. Which I believe is a key ingredient in dirty bombs.

[quote] Most researchers are now of the opinion that the causes of cancer are multifactorial, with genetic, viral, and chemical factors all playing a part. You can be assured that this is being studied in minute detail.

You do realize that dioxins cause genetic mutation in the DNA correct? Also blocking of enzyme receptors which directly affect the bodies ability to make the chemicals to fight off infection as well as other primary fucntions used in daily life! Like say for instance the breaking down of food!

In the early 1970's a test was done to determine the amount of kids with depression and bipolar disorders. At the time the amount was 2%. Since the initial use of Dioxins in Vietnam and the acceptablity of the US farming industry that % rose to over 16% in just thirty years. Which is a direct relation to the food source. The interesting part is all the money being made from the benifical factors of dioxin. Dioxins are the pharm. companies best friend. A relatively hidden cause that ensures revenue.

[quote]You need to understand that for most people on this forum the causes of cancer are of casual interest only, as most of us are either people who have cancer or those who care for people who have cancer. Most here are interested in effective treatments of existing cancers.

I'm sorry but I doubt anyone with cancer will consider it casual.

Vee Smith · Moderator Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 1003 Location: UK

I find this kind of post boring and intrusive. It's a bit late once cancer has taken hold to start worrying if one particular chemical was responsible.

Find a forum for those who are desperate to avoid becoming ill.

romankorvinus · New User Joined: 22 Oct 2009 Posts: 6

If I didn't know better I would say this site was started by the government. I mean after all it's quite interesting how you two seem to want to avoid the cause and soely identify with the effect.

The only reason you would consider it too late is because you have no intent or valid foundation for wanting the cause to be exterminated. Which tells me your either extremely self centered and self serving or you're paid to divert the questions that might paint a nice little stain on you're employer lapel. Either way it seems you would hate for the sick and dying to actually realize their hard earned tax money is being used to benefit the very organizations that seems to think the most dangerous chemical on the planet somehow has a safe level.

Perhaps you should reply with the uses of Olestra! I mean after all it is known to be the only effective way to rid the body of Dioxins. Next you can talk about the Hersey squirts along with chips and dip.

ChemoMan · Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:30 pm Post subject: Re: Dioxins

Hi romankorvinus

My point was since during the 20th century cancer rates have remained , by and large stable, and dioxin use has increased greatly up until recently.

Anyway I agree with Vee, that this discussion is redundant, and I also find you rude and offering little support to the people here with cancer. You time is limited here.

Good bye Cool

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gdudak · Contributor Joined: 08 Jun 2009 Posts: 95

Romankorvinus,

This site has nothing to do with the government. It is for people who are dealing with cancer in their lives. People come here for support during difficult times or to seek advice. Nobody was talking about dioxins and government conspiracies and it doesn't look like anyone has interest in continuing to.

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