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ChemoMan
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:48 pm    Post subject: Re: In the remissh posish : some statistics can help Reply with quote

Hi all

Re SD's points

Recovery is very individual. If you are inactive and don't eat particulary well and don't really look after yourself, you can expect 12 months or more before you start feeling better and you may never recover fully. I always tell people about 6 months as this is about average. Young, fit and energetic people are usually running triathalons after a couple of months Laughing The best way to recover is Sleep and eat well and exercise rigourously. Forget about fancy supplements a good diet will give everything you need. Eating crap food and taking supplements will not do any good at all.

RE chemo brain the overt signs did not last too long. I seem to have some lasting deficits mainly peoples names..... My memory seems OK its just peoples names I have trouble with now.

RE survival times once again this is very individual. Survival times for NHL are not as good as HL for the reason that NHL is a cancer of older people. Of course you always get exceptions but generally NHL strikes people in their 60's. HL generally strikes people in their 20's although there is another peak in the over 40's. So naturally survival times for NHL is not as good as older people are more prone to dying than younger people and overall survival times only take death into account, whether that be by the cancer in question or other causes such as heart attacks etc.

When I finished my treatment I was obssessed by survival rates, But I soon realized it was all academic and my interest in this has gone completely. The fact is we are all individuals and we will die when when do regardless of what the stats say.

RE joepets comment on 6 times I can only say Onya Joe Laughing Its completely unrealistic but I love it anyway. That would be like doing 100 rounds with Vitali Klitschko and bully for you thinking you can do that Laughing

Maynard Keenes once replied to a reporter who asked him what would happen at the end of the day ( this was during the great depression) he replied" at the end of the day we will all be dead" Or as the Romans said "mors vincit omnia" So relax, Don't worry , and be happy
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SingleDad
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:38 pm    Post subject: Re: In the remissh posish : some statistics can help Reply with quote

exercise rigourously.???

That's a pretty hefty stressor.... Question [/quote]
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:00 pm    Post subject: Re: In the remissh posish : some statistics can help Reply with quote

Hi SD

By rigourously I meant religiously. Obviously someone your age will find it harder than a 20 year old, so a bit of common sense is required. A good workout will not do any harm.

Cheers
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:07 pm    Post subject: Re: In the remissh posish : some statistics can help Reply with quote

That would make more sense....
I'll be getting on the recliner exercise bike once the "ahem" radiation discomfort goes away ( getting there now _

I figure a good sweat is just the thing to dump toxins.

Almost have the hot tub up to normal now too fro luke warm
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Officially in remission July 9th 2009 Wink
Three rounds of Intrathecal completed July 29th
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1st Radiation Sept 9 completed Oct 1.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:23 am    Post subject: Re: In the remissh posish : some statistics can help Reply with quote

Hi SD

Heres a link for you..... I really dont think taking it easy is going to help much....aerobic exercise is recommened and that means a vigourous workout Exclamation

http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2009/10/30/Exercise-helps-lymphoma-patients/UPI-91801256880643/

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life/health-fitness/health/Exercise-good-for-lymphoma-patients/articleshow/5171456.cms

Oh and by the way the only thing you are going to "dump" from sweating is water and salt....regarding detox that is what kidneys and livers are for, let them do the work, no need for anything fancy. Eat well and sleep well and the rest takes care of itself, oh and exercise of course Smile
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Finished six cycles of R chop 21 26th May 2008
Officially in remission 9th July 2008
Remission confirmed 1st October 2008
Remission confirmed 17 June 2009
http://cancerforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=9620
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RULE NUMBER 2..... NEVER GIVE UP
RULE NUMBER 3..... Don't forget the first 2 rules
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:32 am    Post subject: Re: In the remissh posish : some statistics can help Reply with quote

ChemoMan: 50% improvement in chemo response due to exercise - this is amazing! It's worth advocating it to everyone before they start chemo.

Back to my original question:
Regarding my question about correlation between speed of response to chemo and survival rate my Onc is saying: "The only data that we have is that 85% of people with a normal PET scan at the end will remain in remission."
This is good enough for me.
Now back to the gym Smile
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