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    Crap, no joke intended.

    Chemo constipation was nothing. Now I think I have some kind of obstruction ... I'd say it has to be due to one dose of morphine I got while under sedation last week, because I also had an MRI and nothing was amiss at the time.

    I hate to go to the ER for an impacted butt, but I haven't had a normal BM in five days now, and my guts are starting to feel "full up." I went from no movement and sensation to some gurgling and gas, but still I am barely squeezing out toothpaste size BMs.

    Are there any other last-ditch things I can try? Tried epsom salts for two nights, drinking two liters of water with two tsps of salt this morning (ow). I guess I'll try the corn syrup thing mentioned in the old constipation thread when I feel a little less full up.
    Dxed with Stage IB2 cervical cancer by one doctor and IVB by another in 10/11. Finished six weeks of pelvic chemorad in 12/11. Lung tumor found in 10/11 dxed as IB NSCLC in 8/12. Dec. '12 scan showed clear pelvis, no growth in lung tumor and new activity in remote lymph nodes. Is it a Stage I and a Stage IV, three Stage Is, or a cured cancer with something benign going on? Lost interest and went off the reservation after a year of unsuccessfully fighting for a good biopsy.

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    Bamabelle, have you tried Miralax (aka ducolax, = polyethylene glycol)?
    Diagnosed with stage 2c papillary serous cystadenoma borderline malignancy of the ovary in 2009. Hysterectomy, omenectomy, appendectomy, debulking. 2010 - laparoscopy showed inoperable recurrence, so started chemo. Frontline chemo - carboplatin and cyclophosphamide, six cycles; Avastin - ten cycles; Weekly Topotecan - 4 cycles. Spring 2012 developed pleural nodules. Topotecan plus Avstin - 1year. April, 2014, had surgery to remove Aspergillus infection from right lung.

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    Oh, I see that's a stool softener whereas the senakot type stuff I picked up today is a stimulant. That's exactly what I need I bet. Hmph. Back to the drug store. Thank you! (Grudgingly picked up a disposable enema also. But that just stimulates things too I gather, so will hold off till I try some Miralax.)
    Dxed with Stage IB2 cervical cancer by one doctor and IVB by another in 10/11. Finished six weeks of pelvic chemorad in 12/11. Lung tumor found in 10/11 dxed as IB NSCLC in 8/12. Dec. '12 scan showed clear pelvis, no growth in lung tumor and new activity in remote lymph nodes. Is it a Stage I and a Stage IV, three Stage Is, or a cured cancer with something benign going on? Lost interest and went off the reservation after a year of unsuccessfully fighting for a good biopsy.

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    2 days Miralax. Seems to work, but I haven't expelled anything close to a week's worth of stool. Not even a healthy-eating day's worth, now that I think of it in those terms.

    My guts aren't doing anything unassisted. I've been able to go a little bit once a day after taking Miralax the day prior and then drinking a liter of water, a cup of prune juice, a shot of mineral oil and kickstarting everything with a glycerine suppository.

    This nothing like chemo constipation. It feels like my GI's shut down.

    I hope to heck my doctor says she knows what's going on or knows how to go about figuring it out. If she gives me her tradmarked blank look and says she's never heard of anything like it and is sure it can't be related to cancer or treatment, I will either walk out or become violent. Seriously, I really would have to do the first one, because that's how she always answers anytime I bring up a problem or concern. It's simply impossible for every health problem I'm having for the first time to be unrelated and just coincidentally arising after cancer treatment.
    Dxed with Stage IB2 cervical cancer by one doctor and IVB by another in 10/11. Finished six weeks of pelvic chemorad in 12/11. Lung tumor found in 10/11 dxed as IB NSCLC in 8/12. Dec. '12 scan showed clear pelvis, no growth in lung tumor and new activity in remote lymph nodes. Is it a Stage I and a Stage IV, three Stage Is, or a cured cancer with something benign going on? Lost interest and went off the reservation after a year of unsuccessfully fighting for a good biopsy.

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    Hi Bamabelle,

    Thought I would jump in and let you know what worked for my dad. My dad was taking morphine and percocet for his pain which made him extremely constipated. The longest he went was 6 days. We tried everything, stimulants, Mirolax, ducalax. The doctor prescribed Lactulose which he was taking daily. None of this stuff worked. Our last resort was Milk of Magnesia. His home care nurse suggest we try this. My dad had the dosage indicated on the bottle and 12 hours later viola! That did the trick, we gave this to him for 3 days which relieved all the pain he had. So, right now I'd swear by Milk of Magnesia. that did the trick for my father.

    Hope you are feeling better.....

    Laura
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    Heart Attack 2/19/2012
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    Passed away 3/26/2012[/B] I love you dad, you will be missed.

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    Plain ole medicine cabinet staple milk of magnesia, eh? Thanks, Laura, I will try that next time I feel the need!

    I mentioned my plight to the doctor and she wasn't even a little concerned. Seemed absolutely satisfied with me saying I had been taking every laxative in the pharmacy with only minimal relief.

    Seems to have gotten a little better, but nothing but lame, skinny bms when I have them. Makes me think there may be some scarring or other damage from radiation in that area.

    Well, I will have to see my radiation oncologist in the next few weeks after I have another procedure done, so I guess I'll just keep trying to maintain so I can say I've done everything and need to be checked out if I'm not better by the time I see her.

    Speaking of trying everything, didn't someone mention sorbitol somewhere around here? Well I kind of went overboard and ate nearly half a carton of "no sugar added" sherbet yesterday and have been going all day today because of it. Didn't realize that sorbitol would be considered "no sugar," but that's one of the top ingredients on the label. I wouldn't recommend that strategy, though, because it left me crampy and gassy and uncomfortable most of the day. But it did ease the jam in my guts a good bit.
    Dxed with Stage IB2 cervical cancer by one doctor and IVB by another in 10/11. Finished six weeks of pelvic chemorad in 12/11. Lung tumor found in 10/11 dxed as IB NSCLC in 8/12. Dec. '12 scan showed clear pelvis, no growth in lung tumor and new activity in remote lymph nodes. Is it a Stage I and a Stage IV, three Stage Is, or a cured cancer with something benign going on? Lost interest and went off the reservation after a year of unsuccessfully fighting for a good biopsy.

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    An update with some real solutions: Apparently the sorbitol-induced diarrhea did more to dehydrate me than clean out my intestinal tract. I took two senakot type pills at the end of that week and ended up having several big, normal type BMs finally and have been going relatively normally unassisted ever since. A glass of metamucil at night and a shot of aloe vera juice twice a day seems to be slowly returning everything to normal finally. Three cheers for time and nature's bounty! Beats anything the drugstore has to offer at least 75 percent of the time.
    Dxed with Stage IB2 cervical cancer by one doctor and IVB by another in 10/11. Finished six weeks of pelvic chemorad in 12/11. Lung tumor found in 10/11 dxed as IB NSCLC in 8/12. Dec. '12 scan showed clear pelvis, no growth in lung tumor and new activity in remote lymph nodes. Is it a Stage I and a Stage IV, three Stage Is, or a cured cancer with something benign going on? Lost interest and went off the reservation after a year of unsuccessfully fighting for a good biopsy.

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    Dear Purpleyam, Constipation is temporary nothing to worry just.

    Try to expend strand and determine you're delighting in a high-filament eating routine, on a mixture of leafy foods. Drink 2-3 Liters of water for every day or 8-10 cups.

    Maintain a strategic distance from Fat nourishment's, for example cheddar, eggs, and meat this fatty food takes a step back to digestive.

    Vegetables: Artichoke hearts, asparagus, broccoli, Brussels grows, cabbage, carrots, green beans, peas and squash.

    I hope it will helpful for you.

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    Hello Purpleyam.... Lack of fiber intake and water are making the people constipated. It is not permanent, we can overcome this problem by taking proper diet and increase in water consumption. Leafy vegetables have both soluble and insoluble fibers, add these to his diet. Water can make the stool softener that can be easily flush out, so drink daily 8 - 10 glasses of water. If the problem is getting serious better to consult doctor.

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    I received 12 weeks of radiation for colon cancer. I had surgery to remove the tumor and had a resection of my colon. I had problems with BM's also along with constant UTI's so bad that I have ended up in the ER several times. My doctor told me that the radiation had turned my bladder into something similar to an old dried up football and every now and then a "flake" would block the tubes coming from my bladder which causes the infections. He has put me on meds which seem to be helping greatly. I can have no more radiation treatments for the rest of my life. My cancer has now metastasized into my bones. I STRONGLY recommend that anybody getting radiation MONITOR it VERY CLOSLY to see if it is having ANY positive affect on the cancer. If I had known that radiation was not working I would have had the operation long before they did it. My radiation treatments did not EVEN TOUCH the tumor so the next step was surgery. The problem is that the damage had already been done to my lower organs and now I am suffering with the side affects. Doctors now want me to enter into a extensive chemo treatment but I am afraid it may be too late. Now to mention the cost would probably put me in the poor house. Anybody have any suggestions?


    Quote Originally Posted by Bamabelle View Post
    Plain ole medicine cabinet staple milk of magnesia, eh? Thanks, Laura, I will try that next time I feel the need!

    I mentioned my plight to the doctor and she wasn't even a little concerned. Seemed absolutely satisfied with me saying I had been taking every laxative in the pharmacy with only minimal relief.

    Seems to have gotten a little better, but nothing but lame, skinny bms when I have them. Makes me think there may be some scarring or other damage from radiation in that area.

    Well, I will have to see my radiation oncologist in the next few weeks after I have another procedure done, so I guess I'll just keep trying to maintain so I can say I've done everything and need to be checked out if I'm not better by the time I see her.

    Speaking of trying everything, didn't someone mention sorbitol somewhere around here? Well I kind of went overboard and ate nearly half a carton of "no sugar added" sherbet yesterday and have been going all day today because of it. Didn't realize that sorbitol would be considered "no sugar," but that's one of the top ingredients on the label. I wouldn't recommend that strategy, though, because it left me crampy and gassy and uncomfortable most of the day. But it did ease the jam in my guts a good bit.

 
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