Has anyone heard and tried this? Seems very legit to me.

[PulseXQ]

a while ago i saw a ted talks were they talked about cancer and they cured a cancerous tumor on a horse with only a mixture of vegetables. I was really skeptical and didnt think much of it But after seeing this video i have definitly changed my diet and once im off the chemo( 5 more infusions to go) im going to do her diet for the rest of my life.

Heres the link to the video that changed how i thought about food http://wimp.com/mindingmitochondria/

another video of her talking about cancer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWd8R...lcp&playnext=2

and my blog to show you guys a picture of me and what i look like http://colorectalcancerfight.blogspot.com/

What do you guys think of the video? Do you think its a bunch of bs? or It can really improve your overall health and life. There is a documentary on netflix showing how eating healthy can also cure you of other diseases.

Im doing this because i only have one chance to live and don't want a recurrence. I wouldnt go through the treatments again. Thanks everyone.

[Kermica]

PulseXQ, I am moving this to the Complementary Therapies Forum for discussion as that is where it belongs. Diet can be an important part of overall health and some foods certainly have cancer fighting properties of various kinds. What they cannot do is the job that chemo and other modern therapies do as you obviously realize since you are talking about changing your diet after you complete your therapy.

Good for you and good luck in your fight. Other mods please note that the link referencing a picture is in fact to PulseXQ's personal blog so it is within the rules.

Good health,

kermica

[Buzzard]

If only I was a horse, I'd be highly interested.

[PulseXQ]

Hey thanks Kermica for moving my post. Yeah im posting it as a preventative to cancer rather then a cure. More cases of people using their self as Guinea pigs are showing that maybe you can supply your body with the vitamines/minerals it needs to fight and protect its self. Its almost not worth posting the information because all of use who has cancer has had several people come up to them saying things like "oh you need to drink apple cider vinegar" and "if you eat this certain types of fungus it will cure your cancer. Im sure everyone has been overwhelmed with Pseudoscience accusations but im positive there is something to eating healthy even though their is no scientific data backing it up. Im a big science nut but i dont believe science knows everything especially when it comes to medicine.

what im trying to say is that the root of the problem might be our diet. A big majority of americans eat carbs as an easy access food that doesnt supply your body with any of the vitamines it needs to run properly. I would love to hear your guys opinions though. ive only been dealing with cancer for a little bit. Thanks everyone

[Didee]

Personally, I do not think there is any diet that can prevent cancer. I think that with cancer a cell mutates under certain conditions/triggers that none of us know about yet. I believe that a good diet is a good thing for everyone though.
I always remember a friend of my mother's, vegetarian, exercised regularly, non smoker/drinker, a great believer in having enough fibre, did everything right..and passed away from bowel cancer.

Kids can be so very cruel. Her kids were a laughing stock with us at school as their lunches were always totally homemade and there was never ever any processed food or the snacks..chips etc that we all took for granted. They never had soft drink (soda to you) sweets or anything that was not 100p/c healthy.

Now, as an adult I think good on her.

[april51]

I grew up in the 60's and 70's when processed food came into fashion. We had also ate a lot of refined grain and sugar. I became aware of eating whole foods and the benefits in the 70's. I have tried to stick to it for all these years. I do eat out at restaurants, eat potatoes, etc. I don't know if it caused my disease, and I know healthy eating can't cure me. But it's a good start and good prevention. a

[oneshot]

The Human Body is a remarkable machine, and if it's given the chance by feeding it the proper things, it can fight ANYTHING that comes along. Our diets are what's killing us. We are bombarded constantly from all angles with unhealthy, diluted, altered and poisoned foods. The unfortunate thing is that you can't get away from it. Virtually everything we eat is either treated or altered in some way from its natural original form. Even juicing is not completely "healthy" because the fruits and vegetables we juice have been genetically altered in the interest of higher yields. Or treated with chemicals to look better or be juicier, or larger. I think all we can do is "the best we can".

I'm not one to go 100% in either direction. I feel that there are medical procedures and treatments that are necessary. Surgery is the physical removal of cancerous tissue and is absolutely necessary in my opinion. But poisoning yourself in order to kill Cancer is, in my humble opinion, completely counter-intuitive. It makes no sense at all to me. They're basically giving you something that will kill you in doses that will almost, but not quite kill you in order to kill something growing inside of you. I think we need to think for ourselves instead of just blindly relying on Doctors who are admittedly "practicing" Medicine.

Doctors will mostly only regurgitate what they've learned in Medical School. Watch the Documentary: "Dying to have Known". The following is a quote I found online giving a brief description:

"In Dying To Have Known, filmmaker Steve Kroschel went on a 52-day journey to find evidence to the effectiveness of the Gerson Therapy – a long-suppressed natural cancer cure.

His travels take him across both the Atlantic and the Pacific Oceans, from upstate New York to San Diego to Alaska, from Japan and Holland to Spain and Mexico.

In the end, he presents the testimonies of patients, scientists, surgeons and nutritionists who testify to the therapy’s efficacy in curing cancer and other degenerative diseases, and presents the hard scientific proof to back up their claims.

You will hear from a Japanese medical school professor who cured himself of liver cancer over 15 years ago, a lymphoma patient who was diagnosed as terminal over 50 years ago as well as noted critics of this world-renowned healing method who dismiss it out of hand as pure quackery.

So the question that remains is, Why is this powerful curative therapy still suppressed, more than 75 years after it was clearly proven to cure degenerative disease? The viewers are left to decide for themselves."

Thanks for reading.

John

[Kermica]

So the question that remains is, Why is this powerful curative therapy still suppressed, more than 75 years after it was clearly proven to cure degenerative disease?

Oneshot, on these boards, we support the science based treatment of cancer patients. The Gerson Therapy is an alternative therapy and we do not support or advocate alternative therapies on CancerForums.net. It is our belief that the majority of patients are best served through the application of research based therapies that yield measurable results.

I am not interested in a discussion or argument about this, I am merely stating the policy of this Forum. Gerson's is an alternative approach, one not well documented and one that is not approved for use in the U.S., primarily because there are no clinical trials that have been done to validate its claims. A good diet with lots of fruits, vegetables whole grains and nuts is just common sense. According to the American Cancer Society, Gerson's Therapy is has unknowns and risks that do not warrant its adoption as a mainline therapy until it has gone through the rigorous testing and validation that other approved therapies must meet. http://www.cancer.org/Treatment/Trea...gerson-therapy

As we have told many others, if you wish to explore alternative treatment paths for cancer, there are many places out there to do that. This is not one of them.

Good health,

kermica

[PulseXQ]

Kermica, i made this post to hear peoples opinions on the Complementary Therapy of eating healthy. I dont believe that oneshot was advocating not going through with the standard chemo treatments. Its not common sense to eat healthy. When your society doesn't promote healthy eating you only learn later in life that the social norm isnt the best way to nourish your body. I went through the same ridicule the kids in Didees response went through.

Im Enjoying reading everyone's opinion on the subject and i dont want this to turn into an argument.

[endosophie]

Hi Pulse,

Thanks for sharing the stuff about Terry Wahls. I took a quick look at her web site and videos and thought that what I read sounded reasonable. While I don't think there is any diet that can prevent cancer, I do think that diet is a huge factor in our health and one that is under emphasised in western medicine. Dr. Wahl's suggestion that you eat lots of fruit and vegetables and wild fish or grass-fed meat (i.e., not factory farmed) makes sense to me. We eat far too many processed foods, too many sweets and carbs, and our factory-farmed meat is from animals that are injected with hormones, fed antibiotics and kept in overcrowed filthy conditions. The kind of cancer that I had (endometrial) has been shown to be TEN TIMES more likely to occur in women who are 50 pounds or more overweight. So there is definitely a proven correlation with diet. It is sobering to think that if I had maintained a healthy weight, I probably would not have gotten this cancer!

I know someone who has had arthritis for all of his adult life (40 years), and the medicines he has been taking have compromised his immune system, resulting in some life-threatening infections. A few years ago, he switched to a mostly vegetable diet--cutting way back on meat, wheat and dairy--and he has seen huge improvements in his health. Sounds like his doctor has recommended a diet that is similar to Dr. Wahl's. He has been able to reduce his arthritis meds and he is generally much healthier.

So I think a healthy diet makes healthier people. Of course there are no guarantees, and cancer certainly can and does afflict people with all kinds of different diets. But if you are planning to switch to a healthy diet like the one Dr. Wahl recommends, I think that is a great idea. Go for it!

[Didee]

The woman I mentioned in my post would always bend anyone's ear, any time, anywhere about how diet and exercise would prevent cancer. (She was a neighbour) She was so very embarrassed when she was diagnosed as she had believed whole heartedly that cancer would never develop in members of her family because they did everything right.

[Kermica]

Pulse, I don't want to turn it into an argument either, believe me. Read the information on the link I posted and I think you will have a better idea of why I said what I said...which I stand by.

Good health,

kermica

[ChemoMan]

Hi all

Gerson therapy as a cancer treatment is illegal in the states. No studies have ever found it works and claims of cures by proponents have never been backed up by investigations into the claims.

Medical science has been pushing healthy diets for as long as I have been alive and it is a cornerstone of healthy living, so there is nothing new there.

If you want to debate the benefits of healthy eating I don't think you will find any one who disagrees, but feel free to proceed. If you want to debate gerson therapy you need to go elswhere as it is against this websites policy. No arguments please as that is the policy, specifically no discussion of illegal cancer treaments.

Cheers

[PulseXQ]

I just read the link and i can see why spreading the word of that therapy can be dangerous. Glad you guys have that rule in place. My friends will see a documentary like "down the rabbit whole" or "thrive" and ive had to explain to them that the information that is given is heavily biased and they talk about theories like its the truth.
i guess i should probably read the rules haha.

[oneshot]

Oneshot, on these boards, we support the science based treatment of cancer patients. The Gerson Therapy is an alternative therapy and we do not support or advocate alternative therapies on CancerForums.net. It is our belief that the majority of patients are best served through the application of research based therapies that yield measurable results.

I am not interested in a discussion or argument about this, I am merely stating the policy of this Forum. Gerson's is an alternative approach, one not well documented and one that is not approved for use in the U.S., primarily because there are no clinical trials that have been done to validate its claims. A good diet with lots of fruits, vegetables whole grains and nuts is just common sense. According to the American Cancer Society, Gerson's Therapy is has unknowns and risks that do not warrant its adoption as a mainline therapy until it has gone through the rigorous testing and validation that other approved therapies must meet. http://www.cancer.org/Treatment/Trea...gerson-therapy

As we have told many others, if you wish to explore alternative treatment paths for cancer, there are many places out there to do that. This is not one of them.

Good health,

kermica

Honestly (and I don't care if you remove this... or ban me), I couldn't care less about what you support or don't support. As you should know, we are ALL fighting for our lives here. I, for one, am willing to listen to and investigate anything and everything in the interest of fighting Cancer. I think that as long as what you have to say is solely in the interest of helping and you don't benefit financially from it, make it known! The information I've gathered about diet having an effect on overall health is mostly common knowledge... Mostly. Investigating something like the Gersen Therapy is completely up to the individual. As to whether you believe it or not is your choice but don't sit there and try to convince others one way or the other. I'm definitely not against conventional medical treatments and am very grateful to my Surgeon and Oncologist for what they've done for me. Like it or not, I will continue to pass along anything I find out that could potentially help myself and others. Unkile you, I won't try to convince anyone one way or the other... just present the information and let people decide for themselves.

For the record, I am NOT using Gersen's Therapy... but I am juicing and trying to eat and be as healthy as possible.

[Kermica]

onsehot, we wil not become a site that sets loose the sounding board for all regarding alternative therapies. I appreciate your response but we are her only (repeat, only) to support cancer patients, their families and their caregivers. Information about bogus therapies like Gerson's don't do that so are not welcome. Bottom line, there is nothing about Gerson's that has been demonstrated to be "potentially helpful". Instead, it has been shown to be potentially harmful to desperate people who are grasping for straws when medical science has failed them.

We will not support that here, ever.

Good health,

kermica

[oneshot]

Understood... My apologies.

[Kartoz]

There is nothing you can eat that will kill cancer

[Bamabelle]

All the Gerson camp needed to do was follow up and document a few remissions and long term survivors and the name wouldn't be so disreputable. We know so little about cancer still, that a handful of testimonials could be little more than spontaneous remissions or, more likely, misdiagnoses.

I got a question about juicing: I read a little by Kris Carr and have an acquaintance who swears he got rid of a tumor with juice and beta glucan (a supplement that comes from plant cellulose.)

What is the point of squeezing the juice out of vegetables and then taking supplements to get what's in the fiber? Seems to me, whole foods are their best when eaten, um, whole.


Juicing aside, I think there's a lot of credible evidence that diet and exercise helps people live better, even longer sometimes, with cancer. More and more (cancer notwithstanding) terrifically healthy folks running around with it.

[Bamabelle]

Oh, and what I was really wanting to say was directly to OneShot: I totally empathize.

My treatment options for recurrence after chemo radiation instead of surgery suck terribly, so I am pretty motivated to do everything I can to stay well too.

I agree there is good evidence in favor of healthy living. But also, just being active and feeling like you're doing something to help yourself, I think that can go a long way, psychologically, if not physically.