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    Administrator Top User Kermica's Avatar
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    Don't feel like an idiot, dogriver. From what I can see, you are a loving person who is doing everything possible to help ensure the best possible outcome for her desparetly sick husband. We are here to help as we can, I wish I had been able to save you the money.

    Good health,

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    Age 67
    Follicular lymphoma diagnosed August 08, Stage 1
    2 cycles (20 treatments each) localized radiation to tumor sites. Remission confirmed July 09
    Restaged to Stage 3 May 2010
    Recurrence confirmed May 2010 - Watch and Wait commenced - multiple scans with minimal progression.
    Cutaneous Squamous Cell Carcinoma diagnosed September 2012. Mohs surgical excision 09/2012. Successful, clean edges all around.
    Significant progression detected in PET scan - December 2012
    Biopsy to check for transformation 1/18/2013 - negative for that but full of lymphoma, of course.
    July 2013 - Rescan due to progression shows one tumor (among many) very suspect for transformation, another biopsy 8/12/13.
    August 2013 - No evidence of transformation, 6 courses of B+R commence 8/29 due to "extensive, systemic disease".
    February 2014 - Diagnostic PET scan states: Negative PET scan. Previous noted hypermetabolic cervical, axillary, iliac and inguinal lymphadenopathy has resolved. Doctor confirms full remission.
    June 2014 - started 2 year maintenance Rituxan, 1 infusion every 3 months. Doctor confirms lump under right arm are "suspicious" for recurrent disease, deferring scans for now.
    February 2015 - Doc and I agreed to stop R maintenance as it is depressing my immune system too much.
    June 2015 - Confirm that the beast is back by physical exam, will scan in August after esophageal issues settle down so we can get a clear view.
    August 2015 - physical exam in error, PET/CT shows no evidence of disease. Remission continues well into second year!
    December 2015 - Cardiologist tells me I have plaque buildup growing at an alarming rate. Stent or bypass down the road but not yet...
    March 2016 - new tumor below the jaw so remission is over. Back to active surveillance until treatment is needed.
    June 2016 - C/T scan indicates presence of multiple lesions in iliac chain.
    August 2016 - PET/CT shows multiple areas of lymphoma as expected plus new areas of concern in bowel.
    January 2017 - C/T scan shows significant progression in cervical and inguinal lymph chains, largest tumor is impacting hearing, measures 2.1x4.6 cm. 4 to 8 cycles of R-CVP, 1x3weeks to commence 2/6/17.
    April 2017 - Mid treatment scan shows about 1/3 reduction in multiple tumors. Also shows abdominal aortic aneurysm with peripheral thrombus. Cardiologist changed meds, spoke of need for surgical repair down the road.
    September 2017 - finished 10 rounds of R-CP, V was stopped due to neuropathy in feet. No further treatment planned at this time, at least 10 tumors can be felt which seem to be growing again.
    December 2017 - Biopsy of external iliac node with SUV of 13.1 shows no transformation! However, the FL grade is now 3A instead of Gr 1-2. Will start indefinite protocol using Copanlisib, one of the new targeted therapies. I remain hopeful.
    March 2018 - Copanlisib failed, treatment stopped 3/28. New plan is to go to Dana Farber on 4/16 for case review and treatment recommendation.

    May 2018 - did not qualify for clinical trials at Dana Farber. Tumors need to get larger to be considered. On consultation w/Dr. Armand at DF and my onc, have decided to take a break from cancer treatments. Will have a biopsy of the mass in my sinus discovered in scan at DF and to get the aneurysm repaired as it has developed a potentially catastrophic penetrating ulcer. Surgery scheduled for 7/12.

    September 2018 - biopsy of mass in nose shows transformed DLBCL throughout. Assessing options for this negative development.

    October 2018 - started 6 to 8 cycles of R-CHOP. Goal is to get to full remission to open up other options.

    February/March 2019 - PET shows four hot spots following R-CHOP. referred to Dana Farber for stem cell transplant. Pre testing all good, accepted for Auto Transplant. Will begin inpatient process about April 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogriver View Post
    I'm sure that there won't be a money back guarantee.
    I wouldn't be so sure. Try.

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    I tried the Jim Beam and coke diet. All it did was result in regrowth. Oh wait that was my idea of a cure...lol

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    If we get our bodies, minds an lifestyles in a healthy and balanced state, our treatments will likely be more successful.
    And how do people get their bodies, minds and lifestyles in a good state?
    By doing most of the things on chemomans list.
    -Like exercising and stretching (yoga).
    -Eating well (Gerson therapy).
    -Strengthening our innerselves (visualization, guided imagery, Simonton therapy)
    -taking effective supplements (most of his list)
    -laughing and enjoying life (humor therapy, socializing)

    See, it is possible that not one of these is a single "cure" for cancer. But almost evry single one of these can contribute to a healthy life and survuving cancer for the long run.

    That is why an idea like, "it's not a proven cure, so it's a scam" is usually pretty silly.
    Making ourselves as happy and healthy as possible is the key for living.
    And making choices about which treatments are correct for our situation of course if important too.

    We need effective cancer treatments AND we need to do everything else we possibly can (on our side) to keep ourselves in balance and helathy during our cancer treatments and beyond for the rest of our lives.

    Whew!
    he he.
    did I freak?
    he he.
    a little.
    Time to do a little yoga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by immuno View Post
    If we get our bodies, minds an lifestyles in a healthy and balanced state, our treatments will likely be more successful.
    And how do people get their bodies, minds and lifestyles in a good state?
    By doing most of the things on chemomans list.
    -Like exercising and stretching (yoga).
    -Eating well (Gerson therapy).
    -Strengthening our innerselves (visualization, guided imagery, Simonton therapy)
    -taking effective supplements (most of his list)
    -laughing and enjoying life (humor therapy, socializing)

    See, it is possible that not one of these is a single "cure" for cancer. But almost evry single one of these can contribute to a healthy life and survuving cancer for the long run.

    That is why an idea like, "it's not a proven cure, so it's a scam" is usually pretty silly.
    Making ourselves as happy and healthy as possible is the key for living.
    And making choices about which treatments are correct for our situation of course if important too.

    We need effective cancer treatments AND we need to do everything else we possibly can (on our side) to keep ourselves in balance and helathy during our cancer treatments and beyond for the rest of our lives.

    Whew!
    he he.
    did I freak?
    he he.
    a little.
    Time to do a little yoga.
    It doesn't matter you state of mind etc, if the chemo works it works. None of us want to relapse, I most likely will. You just live life as normal.
    31 when dx with stage 4 FNHL very young. 6 cycles of RCHOP14 then 2 of COP14
    Which put me in remission. Couldn't have maintaince as mabthera lowered white cell count so far still in remission.

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    Hi Immuno

    -Eating well (Gerson therapy).
    I beg your pardon ? Gerson therapy is quackery pure and simple. it is about as far as eating 'well' as you can get. it is also proven to have no effect
    From wikipeadia:
    Gerson Therapy is based on the belief that disease is caused by the accumulation of unspecified toxins, and attempts to treat the disease by having patients consume a vegetarian diet including hourly glasses of organic juice and various dietary supplements. In addition, patients receive enemas of coffee, castor oil and sometimes hydrogen peroxide or ozone.[9] The original protocol also included raw calf liver extract daily but this practice was discontinued after several patients died following an outbreak of Campylobacter infection.[10] Gerson's daughter, Charlotte Gerson, continued to promote the therapy, founding the "Gerson Institute" in 1977.[11]

    You don't need copious amounts of juice in a healthy diet. You don't need coffee enemas in a healthy diet and you certainly don't need huge amounts of supplements in a healthy diet. Its pure quackery

    I would like to remind you all that the list is not mine. It is from the American cancer society

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    Diffuse Large B cell Lymphoma
    Stage 2a Bulky presentation
    Finished six cycles of R chop 21 26th May 2008
    Officially in remission 9th July 2008
    Remission reconfirmed 1st October 2008
    Remission reconfirmed 17th June 2009
    Remission reconfirmed 7th June 2010
    Remission reconfirmed 6th July 2011

    NED AND DECLARED CURED on the 2/01/2013

    No more scheduled visits to the Prof
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    Now that sounds like something my dad would be interested in! The Jim Beam and Coke diet that is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe7 View Post
    OK then define "cure" as it relates to cancer. To me that means long-term survival and an extremely low chance of it recurring. Given that, I agree few if any cancers are cured by chemo or radiation, although there may be a few.
    For those few people who were cured by chemo or radiation, it's entirely possible they would have recovered without those treatments.

    The only known effective cure for any cancer is catching it at an extremly early stage, cutting it out, and hoping that the individual's genetics doesn't dispose them to a recurrence. In other words their cancer was caused by a chance mutation or exposure to one-time external stimulus, rather than genetics.

    chemo and radiation may add a year or two of longevity, but by and large cancer returns. Is there really any compelling argument why chemo and/or radiation should be used at all?

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    Yep. Me. Without it I would be dead of a rare and aggressive fatal in most cases cancer and not 3 years in remission.
    Aussie, age 61
    1987 CIN 111. Cervix lasered, no further problems.

    Years of pain, bleeding, women's plumbing problems. TV ultrasound, tests, eventual hysterectomy 2007, fibroids in lining of Uterus.

    Dx Peripheral T Cell Lymphoma stage 2B bulky, aggressive Dec/09.
    6 chop14 and Neulasta.
    Clean PET April/10, 18 rads 36gy mop up. All done May 2010
    Iffy scan Nov. 2011. Scan Feb 2012 .still in remission.Still NED Nov 2012.
    Discharged Nov 2014.

    May/2012. U/sound, thyroid scan, FNB. Benign adenoma.

    Relapse Apr 2016. AITL. Some chemos then on to allo transplant. Onc says long remission was good. Still very fixable.

    SCT Aug 2016

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    Case in point, Di.
    March 21, 2011 - Dad diagnosed. Pancreatic Adenocarcinoma on head of pancreas.
    April 2011 - Gemcitabine and radiation for a total of 12 weeks.
    October 14, 2011 - Successful Whipple procedure. Cancer free! Best 5 months of my life!!!
    March 2, 2012 - CT scan and discovery of possible mets to both lungs.
    March 23, 2012 - Biopsy confirmed recurrence.
    May 2, 2012 - Folfiri regimen started. Stopped after 2 treatments due to infection.
    June 2, 2012 - Switched to Xeloda
    Sept. 21, 2012 - No more chemo...treatment not working anymore. Now we wait and pray.
    October 6, 2012 - My dad is now at peace in Heaven, watching over us until we meet again.

    ♥ Forever in my heart! Miss you every day more than words can say! ♥

 

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