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Thread: Fermented Wheat Germ helps fight off cancer cells!

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    Hi,

    Wheat germ has a lot of nutritional benefits and my mom used to buy it freshly packed cold from a business in Canada that carries it but unfortunately forgot the name. If I remember it comes in a large pack of 3 that is shipped to you cold-frozen.

    If you live too far and can't get it from Rainbow Groceries, I know Amazon.com carries it but in a small pack:
    http://www.amazon.com/Fearn-NatureFr.../dp/B000LKYWCG

    Thanks!
    Last edited by SFGiants13; 03-12-2013 at 02:45 AM.

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    Thumbs up Here's the place!

    Hi,

    Sorry for not getting it sooner but glad I found the article my mom printed out sitting in our computer room.
    The wheat germ comes in big cold bags. If I remember correctly it comes from Canada and goes to Ohio, but I'm not completely sure? Although they say this is the best method to go with wheat germ but my mom still gets it from Rainbow which is organic.

    Definitely check it out!
    http://www.flaxfood.com/wheatfood/wgerm.htm

    Hope this helps!
    Last edited by SFGiants13; 03-27-2013 at 06:39 PM.

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    Nutritional maybe, but as the human immune system does not recognise cancer cells( as they are of our own body) then the immune system does not attack them.
    There is nothing organic or inorganic synthesised or not that can "teach or trick" the bodies immune system into recognising cancer cells as a threat.
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    Hi Barry,

    Okay and yes I understand what you mean. I guess what I'm mainly trying to say is that the wheat germ from Rainbow is stored cold in a refrigerator and raw to keep it fresh just like the one that is packaged from Northern Edge. I just hope it can help fight cancer cells as what I heard from scientific research and tests.
    Thanks!

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    Hi,

    Here's another great article from Dr. Oz "Why You Need Wheat Germ" where wheat germ offers a lot of health benefits, and of course has shown good results in cancer prevention studies. Hope this helps, thanks!

    http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/why-you-need-wheat-germ

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    Hi All,

    I discovered another interesting article on Wheat Germ how it can kill cancer cells fast ??!! Whoa Awesome!

    Check it out:
    http://naturalsociety.com/avemar-fer...er-cells-fast/
    Last edited by SFGiants13; 08-11-2014 at 09:34 PM.

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    SF,
    I would say having looked at the Advert, yes advert you have pushed this topic about as far as is permissable, maybe beyond.

    My suggestion would be to find a Alternative site that allows this stuff to be advertised, promoted or sold as so far there has been zero scientific validation and your last link
    "Kills any type of cancer cells fast" is one huge statement.
    Unfortunately untrue.
    I'm sorry I have to say this
    Peddle this somewhere else.
    Barry

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    If you consider the trillons of mutated cells that form a tumor, how much of this stuff would you have to consume to have a reasonable effect? I would imagine kilos of it per day - at which point it would probably cross over and become toxic - just like excess water does. As well, cancer cells do not sleep or follow a dosing schedule. They clone themselves 24/7 while we ingest these substances only a few times per day. On principle, it is a losing battle. The bottom line is that someone is making money off of this stuff. When they submit it to unbiased testing, rather than mere advertising, it will be worth a look. Until then, I will risk my life with what is known to work.
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    You have been warned about doing this before. Doing t again and you will be banned. Enough is enough.
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    Unhappy

    I'm so very sorry and apologize for this unfortunate mistake I brought upon and I guess I'm not too bright or careful on noticing that these are advertisements and not backed up with proven scientific evidence.

    I just won't post anymore on this topic, please remove my recent post as I don't want to be banned.

    I know you all have greater knowledge and expertise on this field while as I'm a young adult survivor still learning with a strong devoted passion on helping others in need and a hope of finding a natural cure.

    I'm so very sorry.

 

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