chemotherapy and marijuana
I hear that marijuana is legal for medical use in lots of the states. Anyone have any info regarding the use of POT to suppress some of the bad side effects of Chemotherapy? I remember back in my college days I took a puff here and there and it always made me extremely hungry and thirsty.
Considering discussing this with the uncologist next week since it is legal in the state I live in for medical purposes only. I hear you can get it for medical purposes in a form that can be eaten and not smoked.
My ex girl friend had suggested this to me a few weeks ago before I started ChemoTherapy and at that time I did not take her seriously. But now, after reading all the horrible side effects associated with the usual nausea medication that the uncologist prescribe for the side effects .. I am wondering if this might be worth a try ..
I my guess is that it has an indirect beneficial effect, since Doritos therapy is a well known treatment that always makes you feel better no matter what the ailment. Be careful with Twinkies ingestion, however. I can only imagine what those do to our already damaged intestinal tract.
In all semi-seriousness, I have never heard of any reliable medical study that shows pot to have a medicinal effect. It is certainly not the wonder drug that its advocates claim.
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Sounds like a lot of fun, doesn't it?
there was an eye opening special on CNN regarding its medical usage. Israel seems to take it very seriously
Originally Posted by Buzzard
It is mostly used to manage nausea, insomnia and decreased appetite. While many claim it's effective, it doesn't do anything for some people and makes the problem worse for others. It can interact with your prescription medications, particularly pain meds.
If you're serious about it, there's plenty of reputable information about medical marijuana online. As medical use is legal under your state law, you could go to a medical marijuana dispensary and ask the person who operates the dispensary about what documents you must obtain from your doctor in order to use/grow marijuana for medical use.
Keep in mind: although medical marijuana may be legal according to your state code, it is still not legal under federal code. Its use may also be a violation of your employee code of conduct.
Yes, you can use your medical hemp to make "marijuana butter" which you then cook or bake with.
Hemp seeds are nutritious and a good source of Omega 3 oils.
Honestly, I see a lot of people who have permits for medical marijuana and most of them are just glorified pot heads. They were so messed up to start with, there's no telling if the MJ is doing anything for them or not. I'd focus more on increasing your intake of high calorie foods which are also nutrient dense and adequate hydration. If the person who's advocating medicinal use is also a strong advocate of recreational use, that makes for questionable credibility in my book.
If you're talking to someone who's an advocate for medical use and they're talking about THC content, alcohol solubility, tinctures, etc., then it might be a conversation worth having.
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If it is legal then try it for sure. It does help with nausea for some people and it does help in stimulating the appetite for some types of chemotherapy. If you haven't had it for a long time be very careful as it can make you very paranoid and it can make you depressed.
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Maybe I'm just old fashioned and positively anti drug, so I declare I'm biased.
I've never used any un prescribed drugs nor would I, but that's just me I guess.
We have a world that is fighting illegal drug use and here we are discussing the benefits of a (in the UK) a controlled drug.
To clarify, I'm not judging anyone, I just find it incomprehensible that we ban alternative treatments debate, yet openly discuss a controlled substance and in certain countries a illegal drug and in a few countries possession and use gets the death penalty.
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As I said in another post, got it for my dad when he was in treatment and the only thing it did was help his nausea. I myself never needed it, never liked it, and really don't care what other people do with it. As far as legality in the great state of New Jersey here, I'll give my take on it.
Not wanting to get all political, really, I love our governor. Wish he would have run for president last time but hope he does next time. Yes, it was made legal here but you cannot get it. Remember, Christy was a prosecutor in his past life and has all kinds of wrenches into the laws surrounding that. There are no approved dispensaries in the state.
From what I have read though, if you get your hands on it, the best way to go is to get a vaporizer. You have to google it. Like I said, not into the "illegals" but I do believe if it is something to help someone battling this hell than the yahould have access to it even if it is psychosomatic.
Walk around some of those fields up there in Basking Ridge and you might stumble across someone's growing stash. Watch out you don't get shot though but then I guess you wouldn't have to worry about anything the.
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My last r-chop out of six is in two weeks.Finished 20 sessions of radi..... mmmmmm (I forgot what I was going to say) Just kidding.I smoked from the start of my chemo and it was a breeze.My appetite was awsome! Due to steroids I have very mild nausea for a few days after sessions.The rest of the three weeks no problem.Lab tests perrrfffect.Worked and played during my chemo.Only side affect...mild fatigue and loss of hair.Another problem was that I'm in Mexico, and believe it or not the pot here sucks! Garbage!But it did the job.Now, I'm not promoting smoking pot for chemo.I'm simply saying that It helped me cope and that it did dimish the so called terrible known chemo side affets.As long as it's legal and you're not hurting anyone I would say to let me know if you run into some real good weed
Last edited by robmex; 10-05-2013 at 10:02 AM.
all I know about it is yes it is available but only under a prescription which most doctors would rather not give. It doesnt come in toke form its pulverized in a pill form.
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thanks for info
I think, during my crazy side effects last night, I might have sent a message regarding this to the oncologist web portal. Have to check to see what the response was.
I know that Sloan Kettering ChemoTherapy department appears to be rather strict when it comes to using their protocol.