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    Quote Originally Posted by ChemoMan View Post
    yes and no. On the alternative side it is definitely belief because that's all they have. On the Science side we have evidence in the form of thousands of studies and reams of data.

    The thing that surprises me every time we get this sort of thing happening is that we are communicating via the Internet from across the globe. Does anyone need any more proof that science actually works ?

    Oh by the way your 2 cents is appreciated
    You sound frustrated by the presence of ideas that you think are quackery. I can understand that given the number of stupid ideas and stupid people one comes across every day. I felt that way myself many times about many things that seemded dangerously irresponsible and might be causing great harm by misleading people. I don't think you've looked very hard at the recent science behind the endocannabinoid system though, or you'd know about the proven efficacy of the cannabinoids that have been tested (CBD, THC, CBG etc) and there are many more that have not.

    There is a veritable mountain of data and hard science to suggest that some cannabinoids (particularly CBD) fight cancer and there are also dozens more video testimonials appearing online each week with incredible results unlike any 'snakeoil' cures offered by alternative therapy in the past. At no point did gerson therapy ever have real traction or science behind it. Good nutrition makes a lot of sense and I'm sure that it has helped some people who have issues caused by bad diet, but Simpson oil is a very different thing; it is not alternative, it is hard science.

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    Last edited by ChemoMan; 01-21-2014 at 05:39 AM.

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    I'm entering this debate as I have personally seen 2 people DIE because they chose alternative supposed "cures".
    Bothe cures were heavily advertised as "When conventional treatment has failed, we can".
    Paraphrase "we can take your money" to me this borders on criminal.
    There is no and I mean No hard based linical evidence that any current alternative treatment works.
    Studies on mice may indicate etc, etc but ansolutely zero professionally documented studies on efficacy.

    Chemoman outlined this forums policy which is clear and unmistakable.
    Quackery we don't deal in and we sure don't ask for money on the basis of forlorn unproven hope.
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