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Thread: Mayo Kegel Instructions

  1. #11
    Moderator Top User HighlanderCFH's Avatar
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    Nov 2011
    Hi hag,

    Nope, I never asked the doctor why it does not matter. Could be that everything, including the sphincter muscles, is kind of set back to "base conditioning" from the surgery & it would be like starting all over again, so it doesn't really matter. He seemed to be saying that it doesn't hurt to do them pre-surgery, but that it will not really offer any extra benefits.

    I know that's about as clear as mud. LOL
    July 2011 local PSA lab reading 6.41 (from 4.1 in 2009). Mayo Clinic PSA 9/ 2011 = 5.7.
    Local uro DRE revealed significant BPH, no lumps.
    PCa Dx Aug. 2011 age of 61.
    Biopsy DXd adenocarcinoma in 3/20 cores (one 5%, two 20%). T2C.
    Gleason 3+3=6. CT abdomen, bone scan negative.
    DaVinci prostatectomy 11/1/11 at Mayo Clinic (Rochester, MN), nerve sparing, age 62.
    Surgeon was Dr. Matthew Tollefson, who I highly recommend.
    Final pathology shows tumor confined to prostate.
    5 lymph nodes, seminal vesicules, extraprostatic soft tissue all negative.
    1.0 x 0.6 x 0.6 cm mass involving right posterior inferior, right posterior apex & left
    mid posterior prostate. Right posterior apex margin involved by tumor over 0.2 cm length,
    doctor says this is insignificant.
    Prostate 98 grams, tumor 2 grams.
    Catheter out in 7 days. No incontinence, minor dripping for a few weeks.
    Eight annual post-op exams 2012 through 2019: PSA <0.1
    Semi-firm erections without "training wheels," usable erections with 100mg Sildenafil.
    NOTE: ED caused by BPH, not the surgery.

  2. #12
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    Aug 2017
    My doctor agrees with Mayo post-surgery. He told me trying to incorporate kegles as you move about is the way to go and do a few for practice as long as you don't tire and start leaking at night. Makes a lot of sense.
    PSA 8/31/15 4.01
    PSA 3/03/16 4.15
    PSA 8/28/16 3.94
    PCA3 9/16 low risk
    PSA 5/10/17 7.49,
    PSA 9/2/17 9.77
    Biopsy 6/7/17 Left Apex Gleason 6, less than 5% of core. Right Apex Gleason 6, 35% of core.
    OncotypeDX GPS score 43- high risk.
    Bone scan 7/11/17. 11th left rib iffy.
    Bone biopsy 8/11/17. Negative.
    3T MRI 7/19/17. 3.5 cm liposarcoma found behind bladder.
    CT Scans of chest and pelvis 7/31/17. Negative
    RALP 9/25/17
    Histologic Type: Adenocarcinoma
    Total Gleason Score: 6
    Tumor Quantitation: Less than 5%
    Location of dominant tumor nodule: Left posterior lobe apex to mid
    Extraprostatic Extension: Not identified
    Seminal Vesicle Invasion: Not identified
    Margins: Uninvolved by carcinoma
    Lymph-Vascular Invasion: Not Identified
    Primary Tumor: pT2c (organ confined; tumor involves both lobes)
    Regional Lymph NodesN0 (No metastasis)
    Number of lymph nodes examined 6 ;nodes involved 0
    Distant Metastasis: cM0
    Working Stage Grouping: Stage IIB (T2c N0 M0)

  3. #13
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    Aug 2016
    Start your kegels at least 4 weeks prior to surgery. This is recommended almost universally for obvious reasons.


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