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    ACA insurance plans don't cover major cancer centers

    I've been trying to choose a new insurance plan for 2016. My main cancer center has been MD Anderson in Houston. Recently, UT Southwestern in Dallas (much closer) became the 2nd NCI-designated cancer center in Texas. But in reviewing both hospitals, I find that no ACA plans are accepted by either hospital.

    There are a number of insurance plans accepted by either hospital, but they are all group plans. This is a trend that has been ongoing across the country. Insurance companies have been losing money on PPO plans and have shut them down. So I am trying to figure out how to find coverage for my major cancer centers. And it turns out I'm not alone. Several health insurance brokers have said they've been unable to find individual plans for cancer patients. The best recommendation I've had is to supplement an ACA plan with Gap coverage after Jan 1, but no details on how that would work.

    I'm wondering if there are others who've run into the same thing and have ideas about coverage?
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    Have you tried talking to the Financial Department at the hospitals about this? They might have some solutions for you.
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    This has been a problem with the ACA since the program went into law, unfortunately. Many folks have discovered it the hard way as you are experiencing. I don't have a good answer for you, ddessert. Any chance of qualifying for Medicare instead? The problem is much less acute on that side of the fence. Good luck with this and please do let us know how you make out.

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    I re-contacted UT Southwestern and in the last week they have added on six plans that individuals can purchase. Five through the ACA and one privately. So that is excellent news.

    MD Anderson is still holding out from any ACA plans and have said the only option might be as out-of-network coverage if the insurers provide it. MD Anderson was already very expensive and out-of-network might be a last resort.

    I've spent a lot of time on hold and answering the same personal questions just be able to ask about coverage of a specific plan. It's 20+ minutes of preliminaries to get to the point of asking about the plans. Every time you call an insurance company. And when you get to that point, most times it's a question that these external brokers can't answer. The insurance phone banks just forward all their calls to these brokers. I'm on 1st name basis with one broker in Austin who I've been routed to three times. He pays $40 for each of these calls routed to him and has to ask for a refund every time I call. But he's also been a lot of help in telling me what is going on in the background.
    BRCA2 3398del5
    Dec 2010 - back/abd pain
    May 2011 - Unresectable stage III, 2.5cm tumor
    Jun-Aug 2011 - Gem/Cis, 9 rounds
    Oct-Nov 2011 - Radiation+Xeloda, 25 days in 5 weeks
    Oct 2011-Sep 2012 - shrinking tumor
    Feb 2012 - National Familial Pancreatic Study
    Aug 2012 - Downgraded to stage IIA, PGP
    Sep 2012 - Whipple, T3N0M0, 0.5cm tumor, 0/16 lymph nodes
    Dec 2012 - Quebec PanCan Study
    Sep 2012-Nov 2017 - NED
    Mar 2013-present - NCT01088789
    @pancanology

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    Living in Calif we have had Blue Shield PPO offered on ACA exchange for few years and expected to be offered in 2018. Its $600 monthly premium without subsidies and $2500 deductible. Centers like USC Keck and Ronald Reagan UCLA are included. If someone lived in Northern Calif, UCSF is on list.

 

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