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    Testosterone after Prostate cancer

    I am 57 and had a radical prostatectomy in March 2008 I am back to about 90% of where I was pre operation.

    Question. Given my age and medical history what is the best method to increase my testosterone level?

    I lift 3 days per week and I'm fighting for every little gain.

    And can be low testosterone can cause erectile dysfunction?
    https://eddrugs2017.com/testosterone...n-go-together/
    Last edited by fly888; 11-11-2017 at 07:43 PM.

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    fly888

    Do you really want to tempt fate?

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    If I were you I'd be very happy and call my competition days over. After all, a number of years have gone by and your T level might be exactly where it is now had you not had the operation.

    How Radical Prostatectomy Affects Your Testosterone Level
    While the increase in testosterone following surgery is not noticeable, it dispels the idea that a loss of male hormones contributes to a loss of sex drive.

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    Agree with Nick on this one. Why rock the boat?
    DOB:Feb 1958
    PSA: 9/15: 5.9
    DRE: Negative
    Biopsy: 10/1/15. Second Opinion University of Chicago. +9 of 12 cores. G6: 5 cores, G7 ( 4+3) 4 cores
    10/12/15: -CT scan/BS
    Clinical Staging: 10/28/15 T2c
    ( RALP) UC 12/29/15

    Final Pathology Report; Jan. 6 2016

    -15 lymph nodes
    G9 ( 4+5)
    +EPE
    +LVI
    +Right SV -Left SV and vasa deferentia,
    PI present
    PM
    pT3bNO
    uPSA 2/9/16 0.05
    uPSA 3/23/16 0.11
    Casodex 4/1/16-8/5/16
    Lupron 4/15/16-5/15/18
    SRT 6/14/16...8/5/16 38Tx
    uPSA 8/10/16---8/22/19 <0.05
    Feb. 2017 Loyola Chicago
    11/15/2018 AUS 800 Implanted
    12/18/18...T Levels...Free T 42.8...Total T...262

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    My testosterone tanked after opting out of HT, stayed in the low 200s for 1.5 years. Talked my Uro about TT, working out 4-5 days a week and not seeing any results. I gained over 20 lbs after my surgery, HT and SRT. Uro is a young guy and been asking about replacement therapy and he said we could try but need to be checked really close. I suggested from what I have been reading about Clomid, insurance won't pay but thought I would give it a try. In 1 month my Testosterone went from 246 to 424 and PSA still zero, feel better already. It is a female fertility drug but given to men increases testosterone naturally. So far no side effects, after only 7 weeks. Originally Uro suggested cutting pills in half which I did for 2 weeks, then did whole pill once a day for 2 weeks when he had me come to check my PSA. So far so good, time to get back in the gym. Just hope my T continues to go up, will know in 2 months, my next check up.

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    My testosterone tanked after opting out of HT, stayed in the low 200s for 1.5 years. Talked my Uro about TT, working out 4-5 days a week and not seeing any results. I gained over 20 lbs after my surgery, HT and SRT. Uro is a young guy and been asking about replacement therapy and he said we could try but need to be checked really close. I suggested from what I have been reading about Clomid, insurance won't pay but thought I would give it a try. In 1 month my Testosterone went from 246 to 424 and PSA still zero, feel better already. It is a female fertility drug but given to men increases testosterone naturally. So far no side effects, after only 7 weeks. Originally Uro suggested cutting pills in half which I did for 2 weeks, then did whole pill once a day for 2 weeks when he had me come to check my PSA. So far so good, time to get back in the gym. Just hope my T continues to go up, will know in 2 months, my next check up. TESTOGEN TESTOSTERONE BOOSTER
    I already use this drug but not much effective.
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    Why? The use of testosterone to counter the effects of aging is not recommended.

    Were you using prior to your RP? If so, it may explain the early onset of your cancer. Without even knowing your history or current medical status it is not a good idea.

    I'd suggest mental health counseling to assess the source of the compulsion. I understand the pumping rush, but when it threatens your health something else is going on.

    At your age, the 10% loss is normal. Doping to replace it is not normal, healthy, or recommended.

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    In 1 month my Testosterone went from 246 to 424 and PSA still zero, feel better already. It is a female fertility drug but given to men increases testosterone naturally. So far no side effects, after only 7 weeks.

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    Let us know in a year what your PSA is.

    You may be fortunate that your PCa was completely eliminated. But maybe not. Testosterone fuels PCa.

    To me testosterone supplementation with PCa is like seeing how close you can get a lighted match to an open gasoline can. You may get away with it, but it may also create a fireball.
    There is no right or wrong decision for treatment. Make the decision you are comfortable with and can live with and not second guess if all does not go optimally.

    6/2016 PSA 5.1, negative DRE
    6/2016 Urologist PSA 6.0, %free = <10% chance cancer, negative DRE
    12/2016 PSA 7.7, %free = 50% chance cancer, negative DRE
    2/2017 biopsy Bostwick 5/12 3+3, perineural invasion. Hopkins 5/12, 4 3+3, 1 3+4 (5% 4), perineural invasion
    5/17/2017 Open RP by Dr Alan Partin - Hopkins (5500+ prostate cancer surgeries, open & robotic)
    5/2017 Pathology 3+4, T2x, +margin (6mm, 3+3), organ contained except unevaluable at +margin, moderate tumor extent
    seminal vesicles, lymph nodes all neg
    Age: 62 @ surgery
    8/2017 PSA < .1
    11/2017 PSA <.1
    5/2018 uPSA .06, standard .1
    8/2018 uPSA .07, standard .1
    11/2018 uPSA .10, standard .1
    12/29/2018 6 month Lupron shot
    1/22/2019 start SRT, 39 treatments, 5 days per week
    3/15/19 ended SRT with no significant side effects

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    I ask the moderator to review these posts. There are links to commercial testosterone sales within the OP's initial link.
    Born 1953
    family w/PCa; grandfather, 3 brothers
    07-12-04 PSA 1.90
    07-10-06 PSA 2.02
    08-30-07 PSA 3.20
    12-01-11 PSA 5.69 Internist recommends urologist, I say no
    05-16-12 PSA 4.76 manipulate w/diet & supplements
    12-11-12 PSA 5.20, Health system changes to 3 years on testing
    03-07-16 PSA 7.20 Internist adamant on urologist
    DRE smooth, enlarged
    03-14-16 TRUS biopsy-prostatic adenocarcinoma 1%-60% across 8 of 12 samples, Gleason 3+3=6
    03-31-16 MRI pelvis w/o dye
    05-04-16 DaVinci prostatectomy, nerve sparing, Dr. Kent Adkins - recommend
    Final Path; weight 65g, lymph nodes, seminal vesicles, capsule, margin all negative, Gleason 3+4=7, Tumor volume 35%, +pT2c
    Catheter out - 16 days
    Incontinence at 6mos is minimal – no pad
    Cialis 3x/wk & Viagra on occasion
    Begin self-injection needle therapy for erections, stop after 6 due to onset of Peyronie’s
    Erections 100% - 14 months
    5-21-19 PSA <0.02, Zero Club 3.5 years

 

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